Yes this is a legit PC Gaming complaint people

[QUOTE="DrinkDuff"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="DrinkDuff"]That is a defense. If you weren't trying to defend it you wouldn't still be arguing right now. Vandalvideo

My point is that now all you are doing is acting as if you were arguing for objectivity (something that doesn't need to be argued for) all along, when this thread is based on a subjective argument, which you argued against initially. You can't change your mind... DrinkDuff

[QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"] i think murder and adultery are good things. therefore it is not a fact that they are wrong, but a subjective opinion. yep, that makes about as much sense as what you're saying.FrozenLiquid

Touche only because you're not knowledgeable in that mate.

Neither am I, but my Theology/Philosophy teacher argued that exact argument because of bunch of 18 year old tools aka classmates tried to argue adultery and murder are okay using what they read from a text book.

That's like level one Philosophy lol.

And let's just say OkeyDokey, my classmates never tried arguing that same point again ;).

Wish I had one of those recording devices. That was a good debate :D.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Neither am I, but my Theology/Philosophy teacher argued that exact argument because of bunch of 18 year old tools aka , my classmates never tried arguing that same point again ;).Vandalvideo

He won't disprove anything to you, he'll just open up your brain like it was locked the whole time

By the way, you're not the first person to question him like that, and you'll never be the last.

As he said during our first lesson:

"You're young, you're male, and you think you know it all.

You're gonna get your ass handed to you."

I love that guy :lol:

Im back...man that was a good sandwich... I even sliced tomatoes and unions...i never do that..im lazy...so has frozen pawned vandal yet???devious742

I pawned Vandel for gold, he isn't worth much though :(

Im back...man that was a good sandwich... I even sliced tomatoes and unions...i never do that..im lazy...so has frozen pawned vandal yet???devious742

You can't pawn Vandal dude.

It's like trying to pawn Chuck Norris :roll:

But dude.... did you have any meat in your sandwich?

Im back...man that was a good sandwich... I even sliced tomatoes and unions...i never do that..im lazy...so has frozen pawned vandal yet???devious742

[QUOTE="devious742"]Im back...man that was a good sandwich... I even sliced tomatoes and unions...i never do that..im lazy...so has frozen pawned vandal yet???smokeydabear076

Turkey good, yeah, yeah yeah!

[QUOTE="devious742"]Im back...man that was a good sandwich... I even sliced tomatoes and unions...i never do that..im lazy...so has frozen pawned vandal yet???smokeydabear076

Is that because you like turkey or because it has tonnes of protein in it that will allow you to do your weight lifting?

Im back...man that was a good sandwich... I even sliced tomatoes and unions...i never do that..im lazy...so has frozen pawned vandal yet???devious742

Pwned Vandal like the cat in my sig. When one provides no factual evidence one cannot defend himself. All the hope, speculation, prayer, wishing wells, shooting stars, magic lamps don't mean anything compared to the cold hard facts.

I mean presently what the hell does the PC have to offer in terms of modern JRPGS and FIGHTERS? Practically nothing.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="devious742"]Im back...man that was a good sandwich... I even sliced tomatoes and unions...i never do that..im lazy...so has frozen pawned vandal yet???FrozenLiquid

Is that because you like turkey or because it has tonnes of protein in it that will allow you to do your weight lifting?

xD Lol...told you Vandal would leave without a word before he admitted he was wrong.killab2oo5

[QUOTE="DrinkDuff"]My point is that now all you are doing is acting as if you were arguing for objectivity (something that doesn't need to be argued for) all along, when this thread is based on a subjective argument, which you argued against initially. You can't change your mind... Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]xD Lol...told you Vandal would leave without a word before he admitted he was wrong.smokeydabear076

xD Lol...told you Vandal would leave without a word before he admitted he was wrong.killab2oo5

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]xD Lol...told you Vandal would leave without a word before he admitted he was wrong.killab2oo5

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]xD Lol...told you Vandal would leave without a word before he admitted he was wrong.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]xD Lol...told you Vandal would leave without a word before he admitted he was wrong.killab2oo5

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]xD Lol...told you Vandal would leave without a word before he admitted he was wrong.Vandalvideo

You know smokey and I may just have to take that unhealthy snack away from you -glares-

awww...why would you hijack this thread now? I was just getting back into the argumentative mood. :PDrinkDuff

Come on! Come on! Get serious!

:P

awww...why would you hijack this thread now? I was just getting back into the argumentative mood. :PDrinkDuff

[QUOTE="devious742"]Im back...man that was a good sandwich... I even sliced tomatoes and unions...i never do that..im lazy...so has frozen pawned vandal yet???FrozenLiquid

You can't pawn Vandal dude.

It's like trying to pawn Chuck Norris :roll:

But dude.... did you have any meat in your sandwich?

Wooa.

How the hell did this thread get so big overnight?

Liquid - check, Vandal - check, Smokey - check, Blackbond - check. Hmmm I guess it does make sense now :P

Wooa.

How the hell did this thread get so big overnight?

Liquid - check, Vandal - check, Smokey - check, Blackbond - check. Hmmm I guess it does make sense now :P

skrat_01

haa haa, its the only way this thread could be so big

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Wooa.

How the hell did this thread get so big overnight?

Liquid - check, Vandal - check, Smokey - check, Blackbond - check. Hmmm I guess it does make sense now :P

naval

haa haa, its the only way this thread could be so big

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] The point of the matter is your argument isn't really a argument.. Its a matter of taste that you prefer a genre that is on the console... It certainly is not a weakness.. How can you say a apple has the weakness of not being sour/acidic like the orange? Its a bogus comparison and just a matter of taste.. I am not saying one is better then the other, but you certainlly can't see it as a weakness.Blackbond

Get that weak ass analogy out of here. PC not having JRPGS and FIGHTERS is like CONSOLES not getting MMORPGs, Simulations, and RTS. Deal with the facts man. Your preference is nothing but opinion.

How isn't it a factual arguement? PC gets no newly released JRPGS and Fighters its a fact. Nobody is denying that the PC has twice as many distinct genre's but it still doesn't have modern day fighters and JRPGS.

No one is denying PC lacks in JRPG's or fighter.....bottom line is PC isn't the perfect platform but the best platform(dominates in more number of genres).

This is how your argument sounds to me.......PS3 has a small weakness.......All the currently available PS3 are black in colour and I hate black so PS3 sucks. The underlined part is a FACT, but does that mean PS3 has a weakness....doesn't it depend on the person you are arguin with?

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] The point of the matter is your argument isn't really a argument.. Its a matter of taste that you prefer a genre that is on the console... It certainly is not a weakness.. How can you say a apple has the weakness of not being sour/acidic like the orange? Its a bogus comparison and just a matter of taste.. I am not saying one is better then the other, but you certainlly can't see it as a weakness.froidnite

Get that weak ass analogy out of here. PC not having JRPGS and FIGHTERS is like CONSOLES not getting MMORPGs, Simulations, and RTS. Deal with the facts man. Your preference is nothing but opinion.

How isn't it a factual arguement? PC gets no newly released JRPGS and Fighters its a fact. Nobody is denying that the PC has twice as many distinct genre's but it still doesn't have modern day fighters and JRPGS.

No one is denying PC lacks in JRPG's or fighter.....bottom line is PC isn't the perfect platform but the best platform(dominates in more number of genres).

This is how your argument sounds to me.......PS3 has a small weakness.......All the currently available PS3 are black in colour and I hate black so PS3 sucks. The underlined part is a FACT, but does that mean PS3 has a weakness....doesn't it depend on the person you are arguin with?

Lack of genre's and lack of games is a weakness period. Whether you like it or not. The color black doesn't affect the PS3's gaming expereince. Not having JRPGS and FIGHTERS does affect the PC's hence why the PC isn't popular in Japan. Hence its a weakness. You may not care for it but that doesn't mean its not there. You may not like it but that doesn't mean it ceases to exist. Its still there and its not going anywhere. The PC doesn't have new releases for JRPGS and FIGHTERS that is a fact.

Lack of games for any platform is a weakness. That is a fact. Your preference is an opinion. A Platform lacking in any said form of gaming is not an opinion. It is the truth.

I mean seriously it isn't that hard to realize this. An offensive lineman's weakness is that they are slow but their strengths are that they are very strong. O-Lineman in football don't need the speed of a DB to be successful but that doesn't negate that their weakness is speed.

Like the PC it doesn't need JRPGS and FIGHTERS to succeed but it is still a weakness. Its just as out of place in those genre's as a O-Lineman picking up a fumble and trying to run it for a TD. It ain't pretty.

How did I miss this thread?

JRPGs not coming out for the PC may be a fact (Thank god since the majority of JRPGs suck imo) but fighting games not being made for the PC is one of the biggest misconceptions in the gaming world. Due to the freedom that the PC platform provides, there are plenty of high quality independent fighting games made for the PC from Japan. In fact, Blackbond, one of those games is a game you know about that went on to become a PS2 fighting game series:

New games for the series still appear on the PC, btw.

Lack of genre's and lack of games is a weakness period. Whether you like it or not. The color black doesn't affect the PS3's gaming expereince. Not having JRPGS and FIGHTERS does affect the PC's hence why the PC isn't popular in Japan. Hence its a weakness. You may not care for it but that doesn't mean its not there. You may not like it but that doesn't mean it ceases to exist. Its still there and its not going anywhere. The PC doesn't have new releases for JRPGS and FIGHTERS that is a fact.

Lack of games for any platform is a weakness. That is a fact. Your preference is an opinion. A Platform lacking in any said form of gaming is not an opinion. It is the truth.

I mean seriously it isn't that hard to realize this. An offensive lineman's weakness is that they are slow but their strengths are that they are very strong. O-Lineman in football don't need the speed of a DB to be successful but that doesn't negate that their weakness is speed.

Like the PC it doesn't need JRPGS and FIGHTERS to succeed but it is still a weakness. Its just as out of place in those genre's as a O-Lineman picking up a fumble and trying to run it for a TD. It ain't pretty.

Blackbond

The fact is a lot of you folks think it is a weakness because you like those genres. So your views have to be correct and anyone who doesn't give a **** about the genres has to agree with you or they are incorrect.

This is opinion based. Something you will never acknowledge because you think your view is correct.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Lack of genre's and lack of games is a weakness period. Whether you like it or not. The color black doesn't affect the PS3's gaming expereince. Not having JRPGS and FIGHTERS does affect the PC's hence why the PC isn't popular in Japan. Hence its a weakness. You may not care for it but that doesn't mean its not there. You may not like it but that doesn't mean it ceases to exist. Its still there and its not going anywhere. The PC doesn't have new releases for JRPGS and FIGHTERS that is a fact.

Lack of games for any platform is a weakness. That is a fact. Your preference is an opinion. A Platform lacking in any said form of gaming is not an opinion. It is the truth.

I mean seriously it isn't that hard to realize this. An offensive lineman's weakness is that they are slow but their strengths are that they are very strong. O-Lineman in football don't need the speed of a DB to be successful but that doesn't negate that their weakness is speed.

Like the PC it doesn't need JRPGS and FIGHTERS to succeed but it is still a weakness. Its just as out of place in those genre's as a O-Lineman picking up a fumble and trying to run it for a TD. It ain't pretty.

smokeydabear076

The fact is a lot of you folks think it is a weakness because you like those genres. So your views have to be correct and anyone who doesn't give a **** about the genres has to agree with you or they are incorrect.

This is opinion based. Something you will never acknowledge because you think your view is correct.

Lack of genre's and lack of games is a weakness period. Whether you like it or not. The color black doesn't affect the PS3's gaming expereince. Not having JRPGS and FIGHTERS does affect the PC's hence why the PC isn't popular in Japan. Hence its a weakness. You may not care for it but that doesn't mean its not there. You may not like it but that doesn't mean it ceases to exist. Its still there and its not going anywhere. The PC doesn't have new releases for JRPGS and FIGHTERS that is a fact. Lack of games for any platform is a weakness. That is a fact. Your preference is an opinion. A Platform lacking in any said form of gaming is not an opinion. It is the truth. I mean seriously it isn't that hard to realize this. An offensive lineman's weakness is that they are slow but their strengths are that they are very strong. O-Lineman in football don't need the speed of a DB to be successful but that doesn't negate that their weakness is speed.Like the PC it doesn't need JRPGS and FIGHTERS to succeed but it is still a weakness. Its just as out of place in those genre's as a O-Lineman picking up a fumble and trying to run it for a TD. It ain't pretty.Blackbond

Lack of genre's and lack of games is a weakness period. Whether you like it or not. The color black doesn't affect the PS3's gaming expereince. Not having JRPGS and FIGHTERS does affect the PC's hence why the PC isn't popular in Japan. Hence its a weakness. You may not care for it but that doesn't mean its not there. You may not like it but that doesn't mean it ceases to exist. Its still there and its not going anywhere. The PC doesn't have new releases for JRPGS and FIGHTERS that is a fact.

Lack of games for any platform is a weakness. That is a fact. Your preference is an opinion. A Platform lacking in any said form of gaming is not an opinion. It is the truth.

I mean seriously it isn't that hard to realize this. An offensive lineman's weakness is that they are slow but their strengths are that they are very strong. O-Lineman in football don't need the speed of a DB to be successful but that doesn't negate that their weakness is speed.

Like the PC it doesn't need JRPGS and FIGHTERS to succeed but it is still a weakness. Its just as out of place in those genre's as a O-Lineman picking up a fumble and trying to run it for a TD. It ain't pretty.

Blackbond

Edit: Using your own argument, how exactly does lack of JRPG's and fighters on PC affect gameplay experience on PC to people who don't care about those genres:roll:

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Lack of genre's and lack of games is a weakness period. Whether you like it or not. The color black doesn't affect the PS3's gaming expereince. Not having JRPGS and FIGHTERS does affect the PC's hence why the PC isn't popular in Japan. Hence its a weakness. You may not care for it but that doesn't mean its not there. You may not like it but that doesn't mean it ceases to exist. Its still there and its not going anywhere. The PC doesn't have new releases for JRPGS and FIGHTERS that is a fact.

Lack of games for any platform is a weakness. That is a fact. Your preference is an opinion. A Platform lacking in any said form of gaming is not an opinion. It is the truth.

I mean seriously it isn't that hard to realize this. An offensive lineman's weakness is that they are slow but their strengths are that they are very strong. O-Lineman in football don't need the speed of a DB to be successful but that doesn't negate that their weakness is speed.

Like the PC it doesn't need JRPGS and FIGHTERS to succeed but it is still a weakness. Its just as out of place in those genre's as a O-Lineman picking up a fumble and trying to run it for a TD. It ain't pretty.

froidnite

Edit: Using your own argument, how exactly does lack of JRPG's and fighters on PC affect gameplay experience on PC to people who don't care about those genres:roll:

So while the PC remains strong on most fronts it does it does have two weak points in my view. Yes two isn't alot but they are two reasons that do warrent a purchase of at least one console in my book.

Blackbond

Exactly....how exactly is it a weakness that PC just lacks in two genres(not important which they are) when the alternative lacks in more genres:roll:froidnite

Because the consoles have more weaknesses then the PC does :|

I mean did I not establish that in the begining of the thread?

Whether you like to accept it or not people won't see something they don't care about missing as a weakness. When choosing a system I look for what I prefer. I am not going to be like omg the PC doesn't have a lot of games in these two genres that I don't give a crap about so that is a weak point. It isn't a strength to be lacking in genres, but when you don't give a crap about the lacking genres it it isn't a weakness.

The fact is a lot of you folks think it is a weakness because you like those genres. So your views have to be correct and anyone who doesn't give a **** about the genres has to agree with you or they are incorrect.

This is opinion based. Something you will never acknowledge because you think your view is correct.

smokeydabear076

People not caring doesn't eliminate the fact that the games don't exist. Lacking any part of the whole video game experience is a weakness. Or do handhelds not have the weakness of creating sit down console like experiences?

If you don't give a **** it doesn't matter. It still lacks it. It still doens't have it.

Blackbond, no need to continue man. Just drop it. They'll never admit it. Partly because they don't care. Partly because it's their system that's on the line

You and I can already see the real sentiments in different threads, and yeah.... it's just not going to convince them otherwise if you continue.

I know what you mean though. I don't even give a stuff about platformers, but I know it's a weakness on the 360. I don't care about family-friendly activity studio games, but I know it's a strength in the extensive PC gaming library. I don't care about graphics at all, but I know it's a weakness on the Wii.

But yeah. Just put it up in a blog post or something and finish it off. This will go on forever mate.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]

Whether you like to accept it or not people won't see something they don't care about missing as a weakness. When choosing a system I look for what I prefer. I am not going to be like omg the PC doesn't have a lot of games in these two genres that I don't give a crap about so that is a weak point. It isn't a strength to be lacking in genres, but when you don't give a crap about the lacking genres it it isn't a weakness.

The fact is a lot of you folks think it is a weakness because you like those genres. So your views have to be correct and anyone who doesn't give a **** about the genres has to agree with you or they are incorrect.

This is opinion based. Something you will never acknowledge because you think your view is correct.

Blackbond

People not caring doesn't eliminate the fact that the games don't exist. Lacking any part of the whole video game experience is a weakness. Or do handhelds not have the weakness of creating sit down console like experiences?

If you don't give a **** it doesn't matter. It still lacks it. It still doens't have it.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]

Whether you like to accept it or not people won't see something they don't care about missing as a weakness. When choosing a system I look for what I prefer. I am not going to be like omg the PC doesn't have a lot of games in these two genres that I don't give a crap about so that is a weak point. It isn't a strength to be lacking in genres, but when you don't give a crap about the lacking genres it it isn't a weakness.

The fact is a lot of you folks think it is a weakness because you like those genres. So your views have to be correct and anyone who doesn't give a **** about the genres has to agree with you or they are incorrect.

This is opinion based. Something you will never acknowledge because you think your view is correct.

Blackbond

People not caring doesn't eliminate the fact that the games don't exist. Lacking any part of the whole video game experience is a weakness. Or do handhelds not have the weakness of creating sit down console like experiences?

If you don't give a **** it doesn't matter. It still lacks it. It still doens't have it.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]

Whether you like to accept it or not people won't see something they don't care about missing as a weakness. When choosing a system I look for what I prefer. I am not going to be like omg the PC doesn't have a lot of games in these two genres that I don't give a crap about so that is a weak point. It isn't a strength to be lacking in genres, but when you don't give a crap about the lacking genres it it isn't a weakness.

The fact is a lot of you folks think it is a weakness because you like those genres. So your views have to be correct and anyone who doesn't give a **** about the genres has to agree with you or they are incorrect.

This is opinion based. Something you will never acknowledge because you think your view is correct.

Vandalvideo

People not caring doesn't eliminate the fact that the games don't exist. Lacking any part of the whole video game experience is a weakness. Or do handhelds not have the weakness of creating sit down console like experiences?

If you don't give a **** it doesn't matter. It still lacks it. It still doens't have it.

The consoles lack the whole video game experience as well. There is really no point in singling out the PC.smokeydabear076

Yes I already established what the PC was undisputed at in the OP and further went into other genres along the way. Its obvious the PC has the fewest weakness amongst all platforms.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]The consoles lack the whole video game experience as well. There is really no point in singling out the PC.Blackbond

Yes I already established what the PC was undisputed at in the OP and further went into other genres along the way. Its obvious the PC has the fewest weakness amongst all platforms.

The way you guys have been acting is basically like saying more salt on fries is better then less salt on fries because it is more and not less and whatever you have to say about it doesn't matter because it is a fact that more is better then less.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]The consoles lack the whole video game experience as well. There is really no point in singling out the PC.smokeydabear076

Yes I already established what the PC was undisputed at in the OP and further went into other genres along the way. Its obvious the PC has the fewest weakness amongst all platforms.

The way you guys have been acting is basically like saying more salt on fries is better then less salt on fries because it is more and not less and whatever you have to say about it doesn't matter because it is a fact that more is better then less.

And the way you guys have been acting is like less games is better and less genre's and a lesser selection of games is better.

And the way you guys have been acting is like less games is better and less genre's and a lesser selection of games is better.Blackbond