Yes this is a legit PC Gaming complaint people

[QUOTE="froidnite"]Also you give me one example to prove your point...I'll give you 100 example to prove my point that all publishers care about is money.Forza_2

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Not enough market. It's like with simulators or PC adventure games...there's no market for them on consoles. Forza_2

All of them honestly. Outside Japan I have seen maybe one sim (or more like semi-sim): Steel Batallion. While PC gets them regularly.

Some examples Sticking only to english releases

jRPGs:

Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Grandia 2
Breath of Fire 4

There have even been some atempts of US devs making jRPG-sty.led PC RPGs (like Anachronox, Silver, Neophyte or Septerra Core) and they all floped in sales. Heck...compare even freeware. RPGMaker games are downloaded far less often than mods for FPSes or even AGS Adventue games.


Fighters
Street Fighter Alpha
X
Mortal Kombat 1-4
FX Fighters
Virtua Figher 1-2
One Must Fall Battleground
X-Men: Children of the Atom
Toshinden
FX Fighters
Sango Fighters

And those are just few examples from english releases. PC jRPGs and fighters are released regularly in Asia and they never really set the charts on fire. They sell bad enough that nobody even wants to bring then outside Asia. The only way you can play new Ys games for example is when they're ported to

Really... they have been many games of this genre released on PC and they all sold like crap. Publishers exist to make money, if there's any money in it they will do it (apparently there's so little that it's not even worth lousy translation).

Honestly..don't write when you obviously have no idea what you're talking about ( and you are very ignorant about PCgaming)

Adrian - ROFL !

You gave me 4 JRPGs over the past 9 freaking years ! And ~13 fighting games over the past ~15 years !

Seriously man, just shut the hell up already.

This thread is still going?

My oh my.

Adrian - ROFL !

You gave me 4 JRPGs over the past 9 freaking years ! And ~13 fighting games over the past ~15 years !

Seriously man, just shut the hell up already.

Forza_2

Well..obviously not everybody has mentality of lemming (not Xbox fanboy, the animal) like you do. I know you think it's good business to make games when previous ones floped in sales. Really...who cares? Just because other companies tried again and again and they failed doesn't mean this time the miracle won't happen..right..RIGHT? Lol... great logic pal.



Seriously..publishers won't throw money into something that just doesn't sell. That's how industry works, it's simple, altough it seems not simple enough for you to grasp this shocking truth.

It's always like that... companies test waters with one, two games, if they sell they make more, if they don't..they stop making. It works like that all the time. There were 4 JRPGs (7 to be techical) over the past 9 years exacly because of that..FFVII and FFVIII floped, despite heavy marketing campaign from EiDOS..so why would anyone try? Couple years later Capcom tried...failed again..and then once again Ubi tried with Grandia2. Because those all flopped publishers just aren't willing to try again.



The same thing happened with consoles and adventure games. PC companies tested waters on PS2 and Xbox, they all flopped and thus there are bassicaly no adventure games on 360 or PS3

there are no jRPGs and fighters on PC BECAUSE PCGAMERS DON"T WANT THEM AND DON"T BUY THEM.

This thread is still going?

My oh my.

skrat_01

Forza_2 just likes to talk about stuff he has no idea about.

Just one more post for you.

"Well..you're in luck then. Because there have been many jRPGd and fighting games on PC and they all did sell like crap"

Then I ask: "Right... give me the list."

Then I get:

"jRPGs:

Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Grandia 2
Breath of Fire 4"

Does anything really need to be said here ?

Just one more post for you.

"Well..you're in luck then. Because there have been many jRPGd and fighting games on PC and they all did sell like crap"

Then I ask: "Right... give me the list."

Then I get:

"jRPGs:

Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Grandia 2
Breath of Fire 4"

Does anything really need to be said here ?

Forza_2

I see you've ignored Anachronox, silver, Septerra Core and Neophyte. Not to mention about 20 jRPGs from Falcom. I also gave you over ten fightng games (hardly a completely list). those aren't one or two cases, but numerous and all floped in sales. You might complain it's not lot, but even thoe 4 jRPGs are still more than all simulators consoles for in last 20 years

They sold weak, so obviously there won't be more. Companies aren't keen on loosing money. Why would they make more if those games obviously don't sell?

I see you've ignored Anachronox, silver, Septerra Core and Neophyte. Not to mention about 20 jRPGs from Falcom. AdrianWerner

Also, name those 20 PC JRPGs please.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]I see you've ignored Anachronox, silver, Septerra Core and Neophyte. Not to mention about 20 jRPGs from Falcom. Forza_2

Also, name those 20 PC JRPGs please.

and those are merely their Windows releases.

. And this is just Falcom, it's not the only company making PC jRPGs in Asia.

American and European PCgamers just aren't interested in those games. The demand for them is so small that the only PC jRPGs that do get release in english nowadays are hentai jRPGs

And this is just Falcom, it's not the only company making PC jRPGs in Asia.

American and European PCgamers just aren't interested in those games. The demand for them is so small that the only PC jRPGs that do get release in english nowadays are hentai jRPGs
AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]And this is just Falcom, it's not the only company making PC jRPGs in Asia.

American and European PCgamers just aren't interested in those games. The demand for them is so small that the only PC jRPGs that do get release in english nowadays are hentai jRPGs
Forza_2

Yes...japananese and Korean only. Sales source? You mostly learn it when they annouce console port :) For example Zwei was released in late 2001 for PC. When they were annoucing PS2 port in 2004 they boasted proudly that Zwei for PC has sold 50K copies so far. :) Yeah...it's definitly niche. Even in Japan they sell preety meh (and Falcom is the most sucessful non-hentai PC developer). No wonder publishers see no point in bringing them (and other PC jRPGs) to english. We end up with bizzare situations when a lot of those games can be played in english only as console ports (made 3-4 years after PC versions), while PC originals are nowhere to be seen. It's a damn shame they don't even try though. Sure... they would tank in retail, but pc now has services like STEAM or D2D. Why can't they just do text-only translation and put it on STEAM? Damm shame. But that was to be expected after the few atempts of bringing jRPGs to PC failed so much.

Yes...japananese and Korean only. Sales source? You mostly learn it when they annouce console port AdrianWerner

And it also needs to be mentioned that many of those actually didn't release in either Europe or US.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Yes...japananese and Korean only. Sales source? You mostly learn it when they annouce console port Forza_2

And it also needs to be mentioned that many of those actually didn't release in either Europe or US.

They never apear in any annual top50 sales. And when Zwei (which is their biggest non-Ys hit) sold 50K you know the company isn't big seller. Falcom is niche publisherr, they make low budget games that sell enough to carry then through. They sell so badly nobody even thinks about brnging them to US. FFVII and VIII sold so weak Square Enix dropped any plans it had for FFIX on PC. Really...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise those didn't sell well. You're just grasping for straws

They never apear in any annual top50 sales. AdrianWerner

Also, did you just forget how low the number of JRPGs have been over the years released on US/EU ?

"FFVII and VIII sold so weak"

Again, 2 games out of what... 7 ?

:lol:

We can agree the US retail market for JRPGs on PC is incredibly small as of late. However... Quite a few are available online. Such as those Asian-developed MMOs.

I'm not counting piracy here of course. Emulating console or handheld JRPGs via illegally obtained ROMs on a PC is still gaming on PC, but it does not support the market.

DIE DIE DIE.

die u pos thread

[QUOTE="Forza_2"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]I see you've ignored Anachronox, silver, Septerra Core and Neophyte. Not to mention about 20 jRPGs from Falcom. AdrianWerner

Also, name those 20 PC JRPGs please.

and those are merely their Windows releases.

. And this is just Falcom, it's not the only company making PC jRPGs in Asia.

American and European PCgamers just aren't interested in those games. The demand for them is so small that the only PC jRPGs that do get release in english nowadays are hentai jRPGs

1) are they english

2) which ones are worth buying

3) where do you get em? :S