Zelda has to move with the times and increase its presentation and production.

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#1 too_much_eslim
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Voice talent is a must for the next Zelda. Link doesn't have to talk, but people need to talk.

Also music needs to be a live orchestra. They also need to make music a key gameplay element again.

ALso the main villain can not be ganondarf. He can make an appearance, but there to need to be an even greater evil foe.

Boss Battles need to be fun again, and sidequests need to be made fun and useful.

Also when ever you visit a locale the village should be lively, and I should be able to do a bunch of sidequests helping people out.

ALso bring back the masks. It doesn't have to play a major role like in majora's mask, but you should be able to gain some attributes by wearing it.

Also bring back special swords and weapons.

Personally I want a darker story, however it is ost likely going to maintain Link good guy image. It would be nice if he had to make some tough decisions that could alter how the game turns out.

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#2 -Sphere-
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It also needs to be HUGE. Around 100 hours gameplay with dungeons that take days of average playing to beat.
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Voice talent is a must for the next Zelda. Link doesn't have to talk, but people need to talk.

Also music needs to be a live orchestra. They also need to make music a key gameplay element again.

ALso the main villain can not be ganondarf. He can make an appearance, but there to need to be an even greater evil foe.

Boss Battles need to be fun again, and sidequests need to be made fun and useful.

Also when ever you visit a locale the village should be lively, and I should be able to do a bunch of sidequests helping people out.

ALso bring back the masks. It doesn't have to play a major role like in majora's mask, but you should be able to gain some attributes by wearing it.

Also bring back special swords and weapons.

Personally I want a darker story, however it is ost likely going to maintain Link good guy image. It would be nice if he had to make some tough decisions that could alter how the game turns out.

too_much_eslim
I agree with most of that. I tried telling the same thing to people who were upset about RE4's gameplay they just whined and told me it should stick to it's roots. I then told them that it looked better but they just told me that it didn't matter because it was "different"
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I don't think it will happen. Nintendo can be like an old man who is very set in his ways. His ways are best no matter what you say. Now get of his damn lawn.
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I cannot express in word how annoying Midna's voice in Zelda was. Made me want to shoot myself every time she started talking.

I dont really care for any that tbh. All I want is a fresh experience. I dont want to start in a village, then get a wooden sword and shield, then go the water temple, find a bow and boomerang .............. and in the end kill ganondorf using the master sword.

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#6 too_much_eslim
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It also needs to be HUGE. Around 100 hours gameplay with dungeons that take days of average playing to beat.-Sphere-
I don't mind as long as it isn't done by making broing and pointless temples. (Yes I am lookina t you TP) SOme of the stuff was just a watse of time. The first 15hrs-20 hrs was boring.
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#7 Articuno76
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It must have taken a lot of smarts to tell Nintendo to make the game bigger and badder...geez...

There's a fundamentally bigger issue with the Zelda series and it's not as easy to solve either. The current formula has been done down to a fine (although procedural) artform. They've basically exhausted the current style of Zelda about as far as it will go.

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#8 BuryMe
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I agree with you, especially when you said voice acting.

Super Paper Mario's opening was absolutely BRUTAL because of all the reading you had to do

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#9 Ontain
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Voice talent for NPCs would be great.

Music like they did for SMG is almost expected now.

I don't really care. Ganondarf is pretty much the great evil of Zelda universe.

I found the fights in TP fun. i would like more sidequests though.

more NPCs would and quest would be good.

didn't play MM so i don't really care about masks.

What do you mean special swords and weapons? don't you usually pick them up during the game?

my favorite zelda was probably Windwaker so dark isn't exactly needed for me. I would like the world to look stylised and pretty.

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Pretty goog suggestion, altough I disagree with the voice acting part.

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I cannot express in word how annoying Midna's voice in Zelda was. Made me want to shoot myself every time she started talking.

I dont really care for any that tbh. All I want is a fresh experience. I dont want to start in a village, then get a wooden sword and shield, then go the water temple, find a bow and boomerang .............. and in the end kill ganondorf using the master sword.

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thats really only happened in OoT since Zelda went 3D. I doubt they would do that though.
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It needs cell shading, Wind Waker style.
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#13 too_much_eslim
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Pretty goog suggestion, altough I disagree with the voice acting part.

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Come on. I don't want to read all day. Also it will be a much better immersive experience.
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#14 crunchUK
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it needs to put you INSIDE link... with some insane atmospheres and music. it is such a mystical place, hyrule.
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I agree with the music part. And boss battles are mostly fun. The rest I can deal with.
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I agree with everything you said.

I really want the story to be an on going one. I wonder if Nintendo will do something like the Prime series, a trilogy for the Zelda series with a continuing story.
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#17 too_much_eslim
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Voice talent for NPCs would be great.

Music like they did for SMG is almost expected now.

I don't really care. Ganondarf is pretty much the great evil of Zelda universe.

I found the fights in TP fun. i would like more sidequests though.

more NPCs would and quest would be good.

didn't play MM so i don't really care about masks.

What do you mean special swords and weapons? don't you usually pick them up during the game?

my favorite zelda was probably Windwaker so dark isn't exactly needed for me. I would like the world to look stylised and pretty.

Ontain

I am talking about like how in OoT you had the Bigoron sword and the hammer. It would be nice to have more special weapons.

Hey I liked WW even, but I played that and I want Link to make some choices that changes the world he is in. It doesn't have to be Hyrule either.

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#18 whocares4peace
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[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

I cannot express in word how annoying Midna's voice in Zelda was. Made me want to shoot myself every time she started talking.

I dont really care for any that tbh. All I want is a fresh experience. I dont want to start in a village, then get a wooden sword and shield, then go the water temple, find a bow and boomerang .............. and in the end kill ganondorf using the master sword.

too_much_eslim

thats really only happened in OoT since Zelda went 3D. I doubt they would do that though.

OOT,TP, A Link to the Past and Minish Cap

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#19 too_much_eslim
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I agree with everything you said.

I really want the story to be an on going one. I wonder if Nintendo will do something like the Prime series, a trilogy for the Zelda series with a continuing story.
Haziqonfire
That would be interesting if they made a Zeld a game like that, but I don't think it would be well accepted because then teh gameplay would literally have to be the same with minor perks added in each sequal.

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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Pretty goog suggestion, altough I disagree with the voice acting part.

too_much_eslim

Come on. I don't want to read all day. Also it will be a much better immersive experience.

Reading is good for you. :P

But, I guess I could live with it if they did add voice actors.

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I am talking about like how in OoT you had the Bigoron sword and the hammer. It would be nice to have more special weapons.

Hey I liked WW even, but I played that and I want Link to make some choices that changes the world he is in. It doesn't have to be Hyrule either.

too_much_eslim

I liked how in WW you could pick up enemy weapons and you got a hammer in that one too. they need to add that feature and maybe the wand and sword that shoots too. (since now that could work with the pointer)

I do agree on the choices. it's more of a western rpg style but i like western rpgs more anyway :)

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I don't think Link should talk, but all the other characters should.
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Miyamoto: Sweet ideas, I'll get right on that.
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Voice talent is a must for the next Zelda. Link doesn't have to talk, but people need to talk.

Also music needs to be a live orchestra. They also need to make music a key gameplay element again.

ALso the main villain can not be ganondarf. He can make an appearance, but there to need to be an even greater evil foe.

Boss Battles need to be fun again, and sidequests need to be made fun and useful.

Also when ever you visit a locale the village should be lively, and I should be able to do a bunch of sidequests helping people out.

ALso bring back the masks. It doesn't have to play a major role like in majora's mask, but you should be able to gain some attributes by wearing it.

Also bring back special swords and weapons.

Personally I want a darker story, however it is ost likely going to maintain Link good guy image. It would be nice if he had to make some tough decisions that could alter how the game turns out.

too_much_eslim

1. Yes. Everyone else needs to talk -- but I think it should be in a made up language, like in Shadow of the Colossus.

2. Yes. Nintendo showed they could do it well in Galaxy, so Zelda needs to have it, too.

3. Yes, or at least make Ganondorf similar to how he was in TWW. I did not like the TP version of Ganondorf.

4. I think the boss battles have always been fun. I just think they need to be harder. And YES to more fun and useful sidequests. I want MM/TWW quality sidequests again.

5. Yes. I disliked how Hyrule Town in TP had so many people yet it seemed so lifeless. In fact, the entire land of TP Hyrule felt lifeless.

6. Yes! Or have something similar to the masks.

7. What do you mean, bring back special swords and weapons? Like sidequest items that you don't need to finish the game, but are awesome nonetheless?

8. I don't want the story darker -- everyone wanted a "darker story" and we got TP as a result. I want a more mature story -- maybe something like MM's, where there a lot of implications but it doesn't necessarily say it outright.

Nintendo might as well make a Majora's Mask 2 already. ;)

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voice talent, orchestral soundtrack MUCH better combat, a more interesting overworld, ebtter collectables, better graphics, an original setting (not just the recycled OOT garbage)
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#26 Blessing77
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yeah that sounds good but i still loved tp a bunch.
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#27 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

I cannot express in word how annoying Midna's voice in Zelda was. Made me want to shoot myself every time she started talking.

I dont really care for any that tbh. All I want is a fresh experience. I dont want to start in a village, then get a wooden sword and shield, then go the water temple, find a bow and boomerang .............. and in the end kill ganondorf using the master sword.

whocares4peace

thats really only happened in OoT since Zelda went 3D. I doubt they would do that though.

OOT,TP, A Link to the Past and Minish Cap

I can't recall me having a wooden sword in TP. hmm. Oh well I didn't like the game much so I didn't replay it. Guess I forgot some things about it. Also i was just talking about console 3D zelda games.
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BTW, I would not be surprised if we saw a Zelda title at E3 2008. Not announcing it this year would be strange if you ask me.
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I'm personally a fan of multiple endings. You know, the type where you actions determine the outcome of the story. It always help to make a game worth playing through more than once.
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voice talent, orchestral soundtrack MUCH better combat, a more interesting overworld, ebtter collectables, better graphics, an original setting (not just the recycled OOT garbage)vicmackey39
tP has the best combat system in the series.
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the trouble is people disagree with how to change it as this thread shows, whatever changes they make cant . they will make a change when the idea gets widespread support from fans. eg..the responded to the reaction against cell shaded graphics and made TP darker and more realistic. Im sure Miyamoto said TP would be the last main zelda in the current form. so next one may be very different indeed
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#32 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

Voice talent is a must for the next Zelda. Link doesn't have to talk, but people need to talk.

Also music needs to be a live orchestra. They also need to make music a key gameplay element again.

ALso the main villain can not be ganondarf. He can make an appearance, but there to need to be an even greater evil foe.

Boss Battles need to be fun again, and sidequests need to be made fun and useful.

Also when ever you visit a locale the village should be lively, and I should be able to do a bunch of sidequests helping people out.

ALso bring back the masks. It doesn't have to play a major role like in majora's mask, but you should be able to gain some attributes by wearing it.

Also bring back special swords and weapons.

Personally I want a darker story, however it is ost likely going to maintain Link good guy image. It would be nice if he had to make some tough decisions that could alter how the game turns out.

Moon_of_Majora

1. Yes. Everyone else needs to talk -- but I think it should be in a made up language, like in Shadow of the Colossus.

2. Yes. Nintendo showed they could do it well in Galaxy, so Zelda needs to have it, too.

3. Yes, or at least make Ganondorf similar to how he was in TWW. I did not like the TP version of Ganondorf.

4. I think the boss battles have always been fun. I just think they need to be harder. And YES to more fun and useful sidequests. I want MM/TWW quality sidequests again.

5. Yes. I disliked how Hyrule Town in TP had so many people yet it seemed so lifeless. In fact, the entire land of TP Hyrule felt lifeless.

6. Yes! Or have something similar to the masks.

7. What do you mean, bring back special swords and weapons? Like sidequest items that you don't need to finish the game, but are awesome nonetheless?

8. I don't want the story darker -- everyone wanted a "darker story" and we got TP as a result. I want a more mature story -- maybe something like MM's, where there a lot of implications but it doesn't necessarily say it outright.

Nintendo might as well make a Majora's Mask 2 already. ;)

yeah like the bigoron sword and the hammer. Basically weapons that were earned through sidequests or even through main quests. I like being able to deal damage with weapons besides the Master Sword.
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#33 prozack28
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dude, nintendo in general need to move with the times and increase their presentation and production.
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BTW, I would not be surprised if we saw a Zelda title at E3 2008. Not announcing it this year would be strange if you ask me. Haziqonfire
They do that and showed that they put some love and care into the game. You have the best game this gen confirmed. at least for me.
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]BTW, I would not be surprised if we saw a Zelda title at E3 2008. Not announcing it this year would be strange if you ask me. too_much_eslim
They do that and showed that they put some love and care into the game. You have the best game this gen confirmed. at least for me.


If you want you can read why it might be announced this year. It makes sense if you read it -- its not long.
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Just give me a trading sequence (that was sadly omitted from Twilight Princess),and I'll be happy.
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Just give me a trading sequence (that was sadly omitted from Twilight Princess),and I'll be happy.VGobbsesser

That shop thing with the weird kid was a trading sequence... sort of.

The armor you got from it was horrible, though, so I could understand that you erased it from your memory.

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#38 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]BTW, I would not be surprised if we saw a Zelda title at E3 2008. Not announcing it this year would be strange if you ask me. Haziqonfire
They do that and showed that they put some love and care into the game. You have the best game this gen confirmed. at least for me.


If you want you can read why it might be announced this year. It makes sense if you read it -- its not long.

Makes sense, but I don't think announcing a New Zelda will get rid of its image. One game isn't enough. besides not a lot of people are fans of Zelda. Those that are already own a wii. It will be hard to gather more of teh hardcore crowd with another Zelda game.
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It would be good just like they updated Mario they need to update zelda for the current gen
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[QUOTE="VGobbsesser"]Just give me a trading sequence (that was sadly omitted from Twilight Princess),and I'll be happy.Moon_of_Majora

That shop thing with the weird kid was a trading sequence... sort of.

The armor you got from it was horrible, though, so I could understand that you erased it from your memory.

Aside from Midna and the battle system I want to erase TP from my memory. If it didn't say Zelda on the box I wouldn't have thought I was playing a Zelda game. the game just didn't seem right at all.
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I actually found Phantom hourglass to be better than twilight princess in most cases.

Especially sidequests. Rupee's were actually worth something and those force gems gave you great power ups.

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Voice talent for NPCs would be great.

Music like they did for SMG is almost expected now.

I don't really care. Ganondarf is pretty much the great evil of Zelda universe.

I found the fights in TP fun. i would like more sidequests though.

more NPCs would and quest would be good.

didn't play MM so i don't really care about masks.

What do you mean special swords and weapons? don't you usually pick them up during the game?

my favorite zelda was probably Windwaker so dark isn't exactly needed for me. I would like the world to look stylised and pretty.

Ontain
Windwaker actually had a fairly dark story, as did Twilight Princess. The cartoon style just masks it.
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I'm going to guess that they are going to have orchestrated music.

Voice acting isn't a must have. I mean, it wouldn't be a disaster if they left it out, but it would definitely be awesome.

Lastly, DIFFICULTY!!!

The bosses, creatures and temples are too easy!

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#44 rgame1
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twilight princess is lamecubre.

Ninty have alredy upped their presentation with SMG abnd zelda Wii will floow suit.

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#45 wagexslave
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I disagree with your first point where you said "Link doesn't need to talk". Come on now, it's 2008... Link needs to be able to say more than just "HA!!!" "HUGH!!!" and "HEEYAHHHH!!!!!". Since he's the main character he should have at least some kind of voice and communication with other people. It's kind of sad in Zelda games when you walk around as Link talking to people like your family and your "girlfriend" and Link just stands there and doesn't say a word to them. Who would like a guy that never says a word?

Haha what if your girlfriend suddenly went mute, wouldn't that suck? Link needs a damn voice too! Someone needs to teach him some english.

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#46 DaBrainz
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SO basicly you want zelda to sell out....the presentation and music are perfect.

I agree about the boss battles though, no matter how cool they make a boss, it's terribly predictable and repetitive on how to beat them.

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#47 insanewolfninja
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Agreed after windwaker I need a compelte evolution of the franchise witch btw windwaker is 1 my fav games last gen, but zelda needs harder bosses and everything else you guy's listed.
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#48 Hewkii
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I disagree with your first point where you said "Link doesn't need to talk". Come on now, it's 2008... Link needs to be able to say more than just "HA!!!" "HUGH!!!" and "HEEYAHHHH!!!!!". Since he's the main character he should have at least some kind of voice and communication with other people. It's kind of sad in Zelda games when you walk around as Link talking to people like your family and your "girlfriend" and Link just stands there and doesn't say a word to them. Who would like a guy that never says a word?

Haha what if your girlfriend suddenly went mute, wouldn't that suck? Link needs a damn voice too! Someone needs to teach him some english.

wagexslave

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#49 wagexslave
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SO basicly you want zelda to sell out....the presentation and music are perfect.

I agree about the boss battles though, no matter how cool they make a boss, it's terribly predictable and repetitive on how to beat them.

DaBrainz

What do you mean by selling out? Link and his friends just need voices already damnit. Gannondorf's voice will be laughable...

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#50 insanewolfninja
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another thing is MIYAMTO needs to create the next zelda. that man is GOD. and kojima is jesus.