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#401 MrAssassin83
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These banners and tags are beyond my skill. Perhaps taif? Surely you can find someone to do this.
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I could perhaps put in the time.  I'd rather have another look into it though.  Eternal and others (as you would see in the links) used to address this.  I would just give thoughts on them.  I have a clear favorite (the current banner's "TUGOWU" more so than the overall package; the favorite was the black one with the PR using Kratos).  So much art left un-utilized.  Such a pity.  It would help if they gave us more Ascension artwork so we can get current.  Bah.  Guess that can wait until the release.
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I'm having trouble adjusting to GoW II Easy NP. No collision. It sucks.
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#404 MrStarkiller
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Pure damage by and large.  BH, AQ, etc.
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#405 MrAssassin83
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Took 56 minutes to reach the Island. 

 

Soooo slow. 

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#406 MrStarkiller
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Can't be helped when you're not using major exploits/glitches/skips in NG, even if on Easy.  Default Kratos and no possessions.  Just try to rush ahead for BH and AQ, I suppose.  One is a heavy hitter and the other is a spell that will most take advantage of your percentiles (25% cheaper and 2x stronger).
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#407 MrAssassin83
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I cannot simply do NP without major skips. I decide I'm changing this to NP with swimming glitch. The rest of the runs will stay the same. Easy i9s just too slow.
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#408 MrStarkiller
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>too slow

I suppose this cannot be helped.  I'll just have to try and do without it in my calculations.

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Maybe not. I am just up too Theseus. May continue without swimming. Skipped the siren sacrifice room.
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#410 MrStarkiller
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>without swimming

Preferred.

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I just hate calling this a speed run. It's more like a Eay NUR with some skips. Makes me like it more.
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#412 MrStarkiller
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Understandable, but just the same, it is a sort of speedrun.
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This type of run should be named the "Casual Speed". I got distracted playing something else. Will get back to GoW II on Monday. My wife is off tomorrow so now gaming.
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>casual speed

Such is the way of a truly fair play speedrun without any 'major' work beyond 'skip what you can', clear things fast, etc.

>back on Monday

I'll be working on CoO Tactics/Tips next among the projects lined up.

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CoO seems like such a wasted title.
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A first attempt of translation to a handheld.  It was bound to be a lesser entry.
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Ignore all the messages I've sent you on psn. They are merely a reference for me to keep track of my times for GoW II.

 

 **NOTE** When I say skip, it means I skipped the fighting unless otherwise noted.

[spoiler] Rhodes Temple:Antechamber

 

-Spirit 

 

 

Rhodes Temple:Hall

 

-pass through

 

 

Colossus 1

 

-Spirit, PR

 

 

Rhodes' Bathhouse

 

-Nothing to note

 

 

Colossus 2

 

-Spirit(grapple)minigame, repeat

 

 

Rhodes Palace:Hallways

 

-Spirit

 

-Skip

 

-Go up the elevator and slap the Colossus in the eye

 

 

Rhodes Palace:Western Ramparts

 

-PR the archers

-skip 

 

 

Rhodes Palace:Easter Ramparts

 

-Spirit

 

 

Colossus 3

 

Stage 1 -Stand by sword. Jump t,t drain powers. 

 

Stage 2 -repeat 

 

Stage 3 - repeat

 

Stage 4 - smack Colossus with his own fist

 

 

Inside the Colossus

 

-skip

(Shaft 1) Break it and navigate ahead

-skip

(Shaft 2) Break it and navigate ahead

-skip

-skip

-(Shaft 3) Break it

-(Puzzle) 

-(Shaft 4) Break it and escape

 

 

Zeus

 

-Get killed

 

 

Hades

 

-grab hands, escape

 

 

Pegasus 1

 

-t (no collisions)

 

-follow in vortex, get knocked down.

 

 

Mount Etna:Hand Cavern

 

-hit finger, navigate

 

 

Mount Etna:Hand Cavern:Walls

 

-skip fights, navigate

 

 

Mount Etna:Hand Cavern:Hallway A

 

-skip

 

 

Mount Etna:Moutainside A

 

-break scaffold, navigate

-cross chain

 

 

Mount Etna:Fires of Olympus

 

-get Prometheus down

 

 

Mount Etna:Mountainside B

 

-skip

 

-skip

 

 

Mount Etna:Typhon's Cavern

 

-Spirit on gorgons, grap harpies

 

-navigate up, then back to set up infinite magic glitch. Continue on, get bow, do trial, grapple back.

 

 

 

Mount Etna:Fires of Olympus

 

-Shoot down Prometheus

 

-get RotT, complete trial

 

-(rope) 

 

 

Mount Etna:Mountainside A

 

-RotT the door

 

 

Mount Etna:Hand Cavern:Hallway B

 

-skip

 

 

Mount Etna:Hand Cavern:Hallway A

 

-skip

 

 

Mount Etna:Hand Cavern:Wall

 

-skip

 

 

Mount Etna:Hand Cavern

 

-Free Pegasus

 

 

Pegasus 2

 

-grab harpies, t (no darn collision)

 

-(Dark Rider) 

 

PATTERN: L, D, R, U, L

 

 

Temple of Lahkesis:Cliff 2

 

-navigate, skip 

 

 

Temple of Lahkesis:Hanging Garden

 

-navigate, skip

 

 

Temple of Lahkesis:Cerberus Courtyard

 

-RotT, hold t, repeat(didn't grab at "O")

 

-(Ceiling) 

 

-(Platform/Ledge/Chest Garden) 

 

 

Temple of Lahkesis:Siren Sacrifice

 

-skip entire fight (will provide video if needed)

 

 

Theseus

 

S11/S12 -Bow, Spirit 

 

S21 -Bow to "O"

 

S22 - skipped

 

M1 - skipped

 

 

Steeds of Time:Saddle 3:Interior:CR Trial

 

-(CR trial) 

 

 

Steeds of Time:Bridle Puzzle

 

-Do it

 

 

Steeds of Time:Saddle 3:Exterior

 

-s,t, OH toss at "O"

 

-Spirit minotaurs

 

 

Temple of Lahkesisivine Pools

 

- skip bugs

-navigate to the Amulet

-do the puzzle and press on (head through the window)

 

 

Temple of Lahkesis:Amulet Chamber

 

-Escape

 

 

Temple of Lahkesis:Courtyard

 

-freeze time, break head, skip fight

 

 

Destiny's Atrium

 

-toss boars into Cyclops. Valor, Bow Trick(don't grab at "O")

 

 

Bog of the Forgotten

 

Barbarian King

 

S1 - Block in front of horse, s,t

 

S2 -grab spirits 

 

S3 -RotT, Spirit 

 

S4 - repeat S3

 

-skip trial

 

 

Bog of the Forgotten to the Bog

 

-skip boars

 

 

Bog of the Forgotten:Temple of Euryale

 

-Get Euryale's Key

 

-navigate, skip

 

-skip, open door

 

 

Ruins of the Forgotten

 

-Spirit, Bow Trick Cyclops. Prevent 2nd Cyclops, grab kills.

 

 

Ruins of the Forgotten:Hallway

 

-skip, grapple

 

-(Pillars) 

 

Ruins of the Forgotten:Forgotten Chamber

 

-grab kills

-Puzzle

 

River of the Forgotten

 

-grab toss, navigate

 

 

Titan Minotaur 1

 

-RotT, BH

 

 

River of the Forgotten:Euryale's Guantlet

 

-Pull down the tree

 

-(Vine) 

 

-(Gears) Use Amulet and cross.

 

-(Conveyor) 

 

 

Ruins of the Forgotten

 

-Do the puzzle, navigate ahead

 

 

Cave of the Forgotten

 

-Talk to the corpse

-

-Proceed with the corspe

 

 

Cave of the Forgotten:Coliseum

 

Cerberus Bastard

 

Stage 1 - BH, t,t L1

 

Stage 2 - RotT, BH, t,t,t(repeat) "O"

 

 

Cave of the Forgotten

 

-skip

 

 

Bog of the Forgotten:Temple of Euryale

 

-Destroy the Gorgon Door

 

 

Euryale's Temple:Antechamber

 

-skip

 

 

Euryale's Temple:Underground Chamber

 

-RotT, BH

 

 

Euryale's Temple:Elevator Puzzle

 

-do puzzle, skip flying creatures(forget their names)

 

 

Euryale's Temple:Lowland Vista

 

-skip

 

 

Euryale's Temple:Temple Hazards

 

-Navigate through

 

 

Euryale's Chamber

 

Euryale

 

Stage 1 -(sweet spot) BH, L1+T 

 

Stage 2 - BH, t,t "O", repeat

 

Stage 3 -RotT, BH, t,t,t "O"

 

 

Euryale's Chamber:EH Trial

 

-Petrify and crush 5 Sentries

 

 

Euryale's Templeillar Puzzle*SAVE* **2 hours 4 minutes**

[/spoiler]  

 

More to come throughout today. 

  [spoiler] Euryale's Templeillar Puzzle **Activate Swimming Glitch**(findlestick new video shows this glitch)

 

-(Center Pillar Battle) 

 

 

Euryale's Temple:Stone Crusher

 

-swim/skip

 

Euryale's Temple:Cavern

 

Titan Minotaur 2

 

-swim/skip

 

Catacombs of the Fallen

 

-swim/skip

 

Destiny's Atrium

 

-swim/skip

 

Island of Creation:Walkway

 

-swim/skip

 

Courtyard of Atropos

 

-swim/skip entire secton. Swim over barrier to...

 

 

 

Lowlands:Exterior Hallway

 

-dip in water to end swimming.

 

 

Lowlands:SoD Trial

 

-L1+s, repeat

 

 

Lowlands:Bridge

 

-Get across

 

 

Lowlands:Crossing

 

-Cross it

 

 

Lowlands:Caves

 

-(Fight 1) High jump skip over barrier

 

-(Fight 2) repeat

 

 

Great Chasm

 

Icarus

 

-QTE

 

 

Atlas:Face

 

-NAVIGATE, skip

 

 

Atlas Innards:Spine Chamber

 

-skip 

 

 

Atlas Innards:Battle Arena

 

Titan Minotaur 3 High jump onto ledge skipping entire fight.

 

Stage 1 - 

 

Stage 2 - 

 

Stage 3 -

 

 

Atlas Innardsuzzle Room

 

-Navigate ahead

 

 

Atlas Innards:Hades Nymph Hive Chamber

 

-high jump to ledge skipping area

 

 

Atlas Innards:Climbing Section

 

-skip, navigate

 

 

Atlas Innards puzzle Room

 

-Use the Thermal Draft to exit

 

 

Atlas:Hanging Platforms

 

-(Atlas Lift)RotT+AQ

 

 

Atlas' Arm:Wall A

 

-skip, navigate

 

 

Atlas' Arm:Rock Puzzle

 

-high jump to ledge.

 

 

Atlas' Arm:Wall B

 

-Navigate it

 

 

Atlas' Arm:Hand

 

-Break the Chain, resist Atlas' grip

 

-(AQ trial) 

 

 

The Great Chasm

 

-Navigate ahead

 

 

Palace of the Fatesalace Courtyard A

 

-(Entrance) AQ to stop call for Cyclops, grab kills

 

 

Palace of the Fates:Spiked Floor Chamber

 

-(Spike Room) grab kill nymphs

 

-skip crank

 

 

Palace of the Fates Palace Courtyard B

 

-jump to upper chamber(skipping cutscene), high jump to skip fire puzzle

 

 

East Auditorium:Hallway A

 

-Navigate

 

 

East Auditorium:Hallway B

 

-PR, early door open

 

-Get the block

 

 

Auditorium of Lahkesis

 

-(Wave 1)*skip* 

 

-(Wave 2)*skip* 

 

-(Wave 3) AQ, BH

 

-Crush his Head, get the key, open the door and head through Hallway C and Hallway A to Palace Courtyard B then use the key on the Ram Door.

*i JUST PICKED UP THE tRANSLATOR AND WALKED TO THE AUDITORIUM SKIPPING WAVES 1 & 2.

 

 

West Auditorium:Spiked Wall Hallway

 

-Valor

 

 

West Auditorium:Garden of the Gods

 

-shoot wall and activate Athena at same time

 

 

West Auditorium:Sacrificial Chamber

 

-BH, pull lever, repeat

 

 

West Auditorium:Blood Tunnel Chamber

 

-Navigate it.

 

 

West Auditorium:Iced Phoenix Puzzle

 

-Do the puzzle and proceed.

 

 

West Auditorium:Nymph Nest Chamber

 

-BH, t,t climb up s,t,t on both, do puzzle

 

 

West Auditoriumantheon of Atropos

 

-high jump over barrier

 

 

West Auditorium:Fate Statue Puzzle

 

-Do it

 

 

Auditorium of Atropos

 

-Save the Translator then crush him

 

-Get Warrior Skull, open door

 

 

West Auditorium:Thermal Lift Puzzle

 

-Do it

 

 

Palace of the Fates:Courtyard B

 

-jump to upper level(skip activating Cyclops)

 

 

The Undeground:Bone Crusher

 

-(Spiked Ceiling Elevator) high jump through wall to skip chamber.

 

 

The Underground:Lava Chamber A:Hallway A

 

-navigate rope, RotT climb up and over wall.

 

 

The Underground:Lava Chamber A:Hallway B

 

-Skip

 

 

The Underground:Lava Chamber A:Hallway C

 

-navigate

 

 

The Underground:Lava Chamber B

 

-Navigate ahead

 

 

Phoenix Chamberlatform A

 

-jump to save altar, high jump to stairs skipping entire Phoenix area

 

 

 

Phoenix Chamber:Circular Stairwell

 

-navigate, skip

 

 

Phoenix Chamber:Exit Chamber

 

-Pull the lever

 

 

Palace of the Fates Palace Courtyard B

 

-High jump to altar, use Horn.

 

 

 

Palace of the Fates:Upper Palace A:Elevator Puzzle

 

-pull lever first, high jump to ceiling, drop door, push pedestal into room, high jump to door, knock down gate/door, skip over cage to Last Spartan.

 

 

 

 

Palace of the Fates:Upper Palace Balace Window

 

Last Spartan

 

-RotT, BH

 

 

Palace of the Fatesalace Courtyard B

 

Kraken

 

-"Come down here and face me now, Zeus!"

 

Stage 1 - BH, t place Spartan on vent, fly up attack

 

Knob 1 - t,t,t "O"

 

Stage 2 - Bow Shots

 

Knob 2 - RotT, t,t "O"

 

Stage 3 - BH, t,t R1 on lever

 

-Cross the Bridge

 

 

Palace of the Fates Phoenix Platform

 

-Tame the beast and ride

 

 

Spire:Temple of the Fates:

 

-High jump from grapple to collision platform above. High jump then MoTK higher jump, glide over to and in the face.

 

 

Temple of the Fates:Throne of Lahkesis

 

Lahkesis

 

S11 -BH, t,t *repeat* 

 

S12 - repeat

 

Stage 2 - jump from grapple, t,t grapple *repeat*

 

 

Athens:Sword Bridge

 

Atropos

 

-Bow shots, AQ, BH "O"

 

 

Temple of the Fates:Throne of Lahkesis

 

Sisters of Fate

 

S11 - BH, t,t

 

Mirror 1 - MotK

 

S12 - *repeat S1*

 

Mirror 2 - MotK

 

Stage 2 - RotT, BH t,t "O"

 

-Crush the Mirror

 

 

Inner Sanctum:Hallway A*save* **forgot time, it's like just over 3 hours** [/spoiler]

 

That's all for today. Will finish tomorrow. 

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Decided to finish today.

 

[spoiler] Inner Sanctum:Hallway A

 

-Navigate ahead

 

Inner Sanctum:Circular Chamber

 

-Navigate ahead

 

Inner Sanctum:Hallway B

 

-Break through the wall

 

Inner Sanctum:Endurance Run

 

Wave 1 - High jump+MotK over barrier

 

Wave 2 - AQ

 

Wave 3 - same as W1

 

Wave 4 - AQ

 

Wave 5 - same as W1&W3

 

Wave 6 - AQ

 

Wave 7 - RotT, AQ, BH

 

 

Clotho

 

Loom Chamber:Floor 1

 

-destroy dead soldiers, up we go.

 

Loom Chamber:Floor 2

 

-skip up to floor 3

 

Loom Chamber:Floor 3

 

-destroy  dead soldiers. BH. RotT AQ. Do puzzle, kill Clotho.

 

 

Loom Chamber:Floor 3:Hallway

 

-Navigate

 

 

Loom Chamber:Floor 4

 

-Navigate, pull lever and get to threads

 

 

Loom Chamber:Floor 3:Strands of Time

 

-Operate correct strands, get to Mirror and leap through

 

 

Summit of Sacrifice

 

Zeus

 

Stage 1 - AQ , mini game hand

 

Stage 2 - stun lock L1+t

 

Stage 3 - AQ, Spirit

 

Stage 4 -repeat S3 

 

Stage 5 - RotT AQ

 

-Do the CS mini-game

 

 

The Loom Chamber

 

-Puzzle/mirror

Final Save 4 hrs 07 min

 

[/spoiler]  

 

Up next Easy BP. Same skips as before, but a ton more skips thanks to High Jump from the start with BP.

 

BP Done 2 hrs 54 min.

Skips used included Skipping getting Typhons bane(straight to RotT trial after first meeting with Prometheus?), skipped Theseus, skipped the fight with Euryale, did swimming glitch, took same route as previous run, but this time I swam all the way to Great Chasm. Skipped TM3, skipped Nymph hive nest. All the remaining skips from previous run were also implemented. Zeus died much faster due to everything being fully upgraded.

 

Almost done with VH NP, then VH BP. Followed by DO BP early swimming glitch.

 

Okay. VH NP is 3 hrs 55 minute. VH BP is 2 hours 40 min. The only way I figure this is possible is due to collision being so overpowered on VH it makes it quicker.

 

Now time for ALL out swimming glitch BP Easy Speed Run. May not use DO, not sure the damage values. 

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>ignore PMs

Easily done when I'm not online most of the time.  I only got on while my nephew wanted to play some demos (because I don't really have games for his age demographic).

>all that space between paragraphs

I assume GS did that, not you.

>finish today

Suits me.  I've been tied up all day.  It won't change tomorrow or even Sunday.  Monday should be the return to business as usual.

>final time 04:07:00

And that was for Easy NG?  I forget the conditions. Some major skips/glitches?  So this wouldn't be fair play, I take it.

>Easy NG+

Taking it to another extreme as such.  02:54:00.  I see.

>VH NG

With or without major exploits, skips, glitches, etc.?

 

>VH NG+

Same question.

 

>DO antics

So I'd gleamed.  Strong hits, strong collisions, etc.

>VH NG

03:55:00.  Again, what was allowed for this?

>VH NG+

02:40:00.  I see.

>all out

>not sure

GoWII Tactics/Tips thread should have costume values in it.

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All skips used are listed in the skeleton. 

 

Easy BP using just Kratos Skin and swimming glitch from Divine Pools. Final time was 2 hours 03 min.  

 

I just couldn't stick to a strict no skip speedrun on GoW II. But the  skips I used can all be done on NP by even the most casual players. 

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#421 MrStarkiller
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>Easy NG+

02:03:00.

>couldn't

Such a pity.

>minor cases

Time to add, nontheless.

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The major exploit used was the swimming. It shaved off roughly 15 minutes of gameplay. So add that in and you'll have your correct time.

At most add 20 minutes to easy and 30to VH. It would adjust to the right time.

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#423 MrStarkiller
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I'll consider that when I get back to this.  Busy day ahead of me.