OMG stop bashing Halo

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[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"]
Thats not very relevant, for its time halo was good, because at the time it seemed original for those who had not actually played alot of sci fi titles on the pc.

KorruptRaiden

But at one stage you questioned its originality am I correct?

[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"]

[QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"] But not by Palantas. He doesn't actually insult you at any point but he will call you out if you're flatout wrong, whether in regards to common sense or logic and you have been, on many cases, in both categories. This has been proven to you by many people in this thread, you just don't care to see it and that's cool, no big deal. I still disagree with comparing an RPG of any type to an FPS even though there are RPGs with shooter elements, such as Mass Effect. RPGs are EXPECTED to have deep stories and would be criticised severely if they didn't. Shooters, in general, are not going to have stories like that because the production values are generally spent on making the gameplay extremely tight and at a high level of quality. If you take the COD series, Gears, and Halo as examples...The stories are not the greatest but the playing through the campaign itself should be considered a pretty good and, most importantly, FUN experience, then that should also be considered sufficient. The only exception to this that I have found, story wise, is Bioshock but the subtraction is no MP. There has to be a sacrifice somewhere because there's only so much a developer can do and it depends on what they want to focus on as a company and what their business model is. Again, compare Hour of Victory to the Halo series or to the Call of Duty series or Gears. There is no comparison. Calling Halo 3 absolutely horrific and awful is to put it on the same level as a game like that which is clearly not the case based on the critical acclaim ALL of those games have received from both crtics and gamers.chaoscougar1

[QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"]KorruptRaiden, First of all, I'm not a fanboy of anything because I play all types of games. If you don't believe that, then go look at the list of games that I have played and you'll see some of everything. Just because I have a Gears icon on my GameSpot profile doesn't mean SQUAT. Second, I don't think YOU have the right to determine what qualifies as a "hardcore gamer". If you get bored of shooters, then don't play them. That's your call but to say any given series, such as Halo, Gears, etc are absolutely horrible is completely wrong especially since you don't have any proof to back that statement up. It's just your opinion, nothing more or less and certainly not to be taken as fact by anyone so get over it.KorruptRaiden

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[QUOTE="Rasika"]

But at one stage you questioned its originality am I correct?

chaoscougar1

Again, who are you to say what is a "hardcare game" and what isn't?Lance_Kalzas

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"] Am i speaking to a bunch of uneducated retards here or something?? none of you actually validate nor actually understand what im saying which is quite ammusing, you are a gears fanboy i can see and it is quite well known that gears is weak in every aspect other than gameplay, although the fans of this wont admit that (waist height walls for everyone!), even cod i can criticise, its gameplay is fun in small proportions but its just the same old run n gun no teamwork no nothing no originality that i got bored of along time ago, generally the games your specifying are just the standard for mainstream games which are generally quite basic games soley developed for the casual gamer and so alot of elements are ignored that would have made the games alot more enjoyable for the hardcore gamer. Something your not considering is DEVELOPEMENT, as we further our technologies and games earn more and more for their respected companies, it should also be expected that the games should be improved in every aspect, as well as that people are talking about 'realism' but sadly most of these games dont actually pose any realism and if you are going to bring in realism you do need a story and most importantly some characters you can relate to, so that a feeling of the game being realistic is induced

KorruptRaiden

[QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"]Again, who are you to say what is a "hardcare game" and what isn't?KorruptRaiden

[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"][QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"]KorruptRaiden, First of all, I'm not a fanboy of anything because I play all types of games. If you don't believe that, then go look at the list of games that I have played and you'll see some of everything. Just because I have a Gears icon on my GameSpot profile doesn't mean SQUAT. Second, I don't think YOU have the right to determine what qualifies as a "hardcore gamer". If you get bored of shooters, then don't play them. That's your call but to say any given series, such as Halo, Gears, etc are absolutely horrible is completely wrong especially since you don't have any proof to back that statement up. It's just your opinion, nothing more or less and certainly not to be taken as fact by anyone so get over it.Lance_Kalzas

[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"][QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"]Again, who are you to say what is a "hardcare game" and what isn't?chaoscougar1

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]

[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"]HAAAHHHAAAA, console gamers, originality yes, pc gamers, no, why, because of all the decent sci fi games that were pc only such as system shock 2 that halo makes many references to.

KorruptRaiden

[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"][QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"]Again, who are you to say what is a "hardcare game" and what isn't?chaoscougar1

[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] i tell you whats weird, heaps of games today have humans in them and guns, now if i could think of the first game ever made to use those, i would tell the devs to sue every game ever made that has those two things because they clearly stole their ideas:roll:

chaoscougar1

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"] Once again you choose to make a farfetch'd and inaccurate conclusion, that is not what i implied, what i am refering to there is that at that time there were plenty of similar sci fi games, the covenant looked exactly like a xenomorph with predator armour, the flood were that little head sucking thingy on half life combined with the facehugger from aliens, the atmosphere, was fairly new, similar to unreal in a way though, very old game lol, but yeah you did not read correctly i think.KorruptRaiden

KorruptRaiden in a nutshell

who cares? If you dont like Halo then go play something, people are allowed to like and dislike games. These debates are stupid obviously Halo has something that makes it good game it sold a ton and alot of people still play it end of storypolarman87

[QUOTE="Rasika"]

[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"]
Thats not very relevant, for its time halo was good, because at the time it seemed original for those who had not actually played alot of sci fi titles on the pc.

KorruptRaiden

But at one stage you questioned its originality am I correct?

Raiden is telling that Halo is only original for PC, not consoles. You get it ChaosCougar? ;)

[QUOTE="polarman87"]who cares? If you dont like Halo then go play something, people are allowed to like and dislike games. These debates are stupid obviously Halo has something that makes it good game it sold a ton and alot of people still play it end of storychaoscougar1

They all use autoaim? Are you dumb? wtf?

Multiplayer games are always gonna be repetitive, not nessecarily a bad thing, a fanboys love knows no bounds i guess.

Would sooner play R6V2 than halo3 any day mind

halo 3 is a good game, but cosidering all the FPS's today, halo 3 is garbage, no matter how many people play it.

Mac11_Fanboy

They all use autoaim? Are you dumb? wtf?

Multiplayer games are always gonna be repetitive, not nessecarily a bad thing, a fanboys love knows no bounds i guess.

Would sooner play R6V2 than halo3 any day mind

halo 3 is a good game, but cosidering all the FPS's today, halo 3 is garbage, no matter how many people play it.

GoDofWaR7845

halo 3 is a good game, but cosidering all the FPS's today, halo 3 is garbage, no matter how many people play it.

what i said in other words was its a good game, but there are much much better FPS's out there, alot of them.

I loved the game, but why is this thread even active anymore?

Right now, I don't think any games are better than halo, because well everyone here are comparing games to halo that came out just recently, that's kinda stupid, I mean considering Halo has been out for over a year, and the games people are bringing up are no where close to a year.. they should be killing halo, but in reality they really are not that impressing appearently. ALL of my friends I know that own both COD4 and Halo3.. they all except like 1 went back to playing Halo 3

what i said in other words was its a good game, but there are much much better FPS's out there, alot of them.

GoDofWaR7845

Mac11_Fanboy

They all use autoaim? Are you dumb? wtf?

Multiplayer games are always gonna be repetitive, not nessecarily a bad thing, a fanboys love knows no bounds i guess.

Would sooner play R6V2 than halo3 any day mind

[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"]HAAAHHHAAAA, console gamers, originality yes, pc gamers, no, why, because of all the decent sci fi games that were pc only such as system shock 2 that halo makes many references to.

Raiden is telling that Halo is only original for PC, not consoles. You get it ChaosCougar? ;)

[QUOTE="GoDofWaR7845"]

what i said in other words was its a good game, but there are much much better FPS's out there, alot of them.

Lance_Kalzas

Right now, I don't think any games are better than halo, because well everyone here are comparing games to halo that came out just recently, that's kinda stupid, I mean considering Halo has been out for over a year, and the games people are bringing up are no where close to a year.. they should be killing halo, but in reality they really are not that impressing appearently. ALL of my friends I know that own both COD4 and Halo3.. they all except like 1 went back to playing Halo 3

Trogeton

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[QUOTE="polarman87"]who cares? If you dont like Halo then go play something, people are allowed to like and dislike games. These debates are stupid obviously Halo has something that makes it good game it sold a ton and alot of people still play it end of storyLance_Kalzas

[QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"][QUOTE="GoDofWaR7845"]

what i said in other words was its a good game, but there are much much better FPS's out there, alot of them.

KorruptRaiden

1. only american online servers so almost everyone else lags because american connections are have dreadful upload
2. gameplay is so basic any noob can play it successfully
3. the characters are averaged and are cliche's of characters from movies, eg sgt johson is a replica of sgt apone from aliens
4. story is weak and should have been done better
5. graphics are quite average
6. multiplayer maps are lame
7. the story is too jumpy, they could have fit like another 5 levels in it
8. it sparked gears of war, how mainstream can you get
9. lack of originality, basically copied aliens and starship troopers
10. and finally the game is just far too mainstream"

lol that makes it an average game to u? id hate to see what a bad game is :lol: but believe it or not, you seem to be the only one who cant read, or you just lack the ability to explain things properly...havent you noticed you spend a lot of your time correcting what people think you said? surely u must realise that its not us, its u. also what part of GR, BF, CS and R6 arent mainstream exactly?

[QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] but if korruptraiden doesnt like it, it must suck:o i think its fortunate that we have him to correct all our incorrect opinions, because his is the only one that is right

KorruptRaiden

And 2K, Bioware, Bungie, Epic, EA (they are getting better, look at Dead Space), Nintendo, Insomniac, Bethesda and I'm sure there's more. You have your opinions and I have mine but what you need to realize is they are exactly that. Your opinions are not fact.

[QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] but if korruptraiden doesnt like it, it must suck:o i think its fortunate that we have him to correct all our incorrect opinions, because his is the only one that is right

KorruptRaiden

oops :) haha

[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"][QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"] Yes and now that my incorrect opinions have been corrected by the illustrious KorruptRaiden, I think I will stop playing what he calls non-hardcore shooters entirely.chaoscougar1

oops :) haha

[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"][QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"] There are also shooters that are a lot worse as well. For what it is, the Halo series works as well as the other high quality shooters. I don't think any of them are so supremely awesome to outshine the others. As long as none of the entires in each of these series sinks so low as to be given that "horrible" status, then it's all good. I think examples in that category could include Haze, Hour of Victory, maybe the latest Turok game, and a few others. When you compare the Halo series, COD, Gears and the Tom Clancy games to the examples listed above, it's almost a given to say these are at the top. All of the top shooter series have their positives and negatives.chaoscougar1

1. only american online servers so almost everyone else lags because american connections are have dreadful upload
2. gameplay is so basic any noob can play it successfully
3. the characters are averaged and are cliche's of characters from movies, eg sgt johson is a replica of sgt apone from aliens
4. story is weak and should have been done better
5. graphics are quite average
6. multiplayer maps are lame
7. the story is too jumpy, they could have fit like another 5 levels in it
8. it sparked gears of war, how mainstream can you get
9. lack of originality, basically copied aliens and starship troopers
10. and finally the game is just far too mainstream"

lol that makes it an average game to u? id hate to see what a bad game is :lol: but believe it or not, you seem to be the only one who cant read, or you just lack the ability to explain things properly...havent you noticed you spend a lot of your time correcting what people think you said? surely u must realise that its not us, its u. also what part of GR, BF, CS and R6 arent mainstream exactly?

Oh and also Unreal Tournoment 3.

Haze sucks dick, but thats not the game im talking about

games that destroy halo are

COD4

Resistance 2

Team Fortress 2

Bioshock

Killzone 2

i would of said COD5 but i didnt really like it. but halo is below all those games i mentioned.

GoDofWaR7845

Oh and also Unreal Tournoment 3.

GoDofWaR7845

[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"][QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"] Yes and now that my incorrect opinions have been corrected by the illustrious KorruptRaiden, I think I will stop playing what he calls non-hardcore shooters entirely.chaoscougar1

oops :) haha

[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"][QUOTE="GoDofWaR7845"]

Haze sucks dick, but thats not the game im talking about

games that destroy halo are

COD4

Resistance 2

Team Fortress 2

Bioshock

Killzone 2

i would of said COD5 but i didnt really like it. but halo is below all those games i mentioned.

chaoscougar1

I can't believe this thread was made in 2007 and is still active.

Halo 3 sucks.

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]

[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"] That would be rather nice actually, put your money to good developers such as gearbox and square.KorruptRaiden

oops :) haha