@sealionact: are you from the paste century? towers are more silent than consoles today, SSD make miracles to start and load screens, mods make the games playable to the infinite, consoles was a solution in the past, when PCs were as you describe, today all the devs want to be on PC because is the future.

It's so cute to see console players arguing about technical differences between 2 devices that are practically the same, counting their few exclusives as pure gold when most of them are cinematics and trailers for emo-fans that wants to cry thinking they are playing a deep game without re-playability. xD

Like those 'fast and furious' guys tunning their cars to seem professional racing cars, is pathetic.

Why don't you evolve to PC and become real gamers forever?

So the news is that finally a console may @60 fps? That is... as we have been playing our entire lives on PC? And also cheaper, with more games, retro and mods. But this console still perfect to those uneducated in maths.

That! is the way to do things. It's not necessary to destroy a saga to reach new audiences, an enterprise should maintain its original audience (which had made it famous in first place), creating new franchises for new audiences.

I rather prefer fantasy, but for those who thought that Total War were turned into fantasy, now it's confirmed that they can do both!

Bioware (Dragon Age 2 / Inquisition), and Blizzard (Diablo 3), can learn one or two things from the developers that don't destroy their own sagas to reach new audiences (worse for them that wanted the casual market...).

@RevolverCasemir: And they are all similar, the worst is the Microtransactions system, in which you don't own the complete game... and that is a F*** fashion that everybody seems to love, because they don't sell a game, but by MTX they've ended up selling the same or less for $200 or more...

@deviltaz35: Exactly, we usually forget that 'videogames' are 'games', that is the PC spirit while consoles want to turn then just 'videos'.

I still playing my firsts games from 2000's, not long ago I've re-played Baldur's Gate and Arcanum with mods, I still playing Age of Empires, Starcraft, Heroes 3 and 4, from time to time, and I enjoy to make mods and maps, Oblivion and Fallout 3 will be always for me with their unlimited modding capabilities, I have and Rage of Mages in my low-end laptop. Those are games, we like to return to them with renewed expectations, as any other game in the world, the Chess will exist forever, so good videogames too.

@deviltaz35: wow... I remember the day I've re discovered my 1st PC, with Windows XP and all my games still installed: Baldur's Gate, Starcraft, Heroes 3, Diablo 2, Arcanum, Blade of Darkness... in a 17' CRT it looked perfect haha.

Still preferring my new PC, playing my old games with widescreen libraries, and mods, on a single click, but yes, playing them in the 'original media' was a great sensation. :)

@off3nc3: "the best MMO/FPS for consoles" sounds Mario Bros with guns, real FPS prove themselves on PC. ;)

And nobody cares about a game that needs all (expensive) DLCs to have it complete, if you bought it on first day and all DLC's on launch, you've spend +$200 in a mediocre FPS, while today the "complete" version is in offer for $35. To still being a console player need to be uneducated in maths.

Are they mad? today nobody cares the first Destiny that needs all its DLCs to be complete. If someone bought it on first day and all DLC's on launch, they've spend +$200 in a mediocre FPS.

The irony is that in discussions PC vs consoles they still counting this as an exclusive that you can't miss, while this game only proves that you need to be uneducated in maths to still being a console player.