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#2 Bozanimal
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To be perfectly honest, you will probably be happy with either speaker. If volume is a concern and you want tons of bass, you're going to prefer the Logitechs.

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#3 Bozanimal
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NVIDIATI is correct: The web sites you are reading are not audio review sites, they are electronics reviewers. They're good at what they do, but consider what you are looking for: Speakers for general use, not just to play an MP3 once in awhile or a game. It's why I asked you what you wanted them for; I want to recommend the speaker that's right for you. C|Net and Tom's Hardware are not Audioholics or Home Theater Review.

Let's consider construction: The Logitech Z-2300s use a single driver with a phase plug. While a phase plug will certainly help raise the frequency extension of the driver to a degree, even a cheap whizzer cone would offer better full-range sound reproduction from a single driver, but neither is a substitute for a dedicated tweeter and a decent crossover, the latter of which separates the upper frequencies from lower and mid-band frequencies, sending them to the tweeter and mid-range driver, respectively. A decent crossover using high-quality components alone can dramatically improve a speaker's performance.

Without listening to them I can immediately tell you that the Z-2300 speakers will be lacking when trying to reproduce cymbals, gunshots, and other sounds using upper-frequency ranges relative to the AV-40s. I've used the highly acclaimed Cambridge Soundworks Soundworks II speakers (the new version is Microworks II) for almost ten years - I have two sets of them - but I strongly prefer a pair of lesser-rated Creative speakers that use a separate tweeter (you can see them here on my desk, though the model escapes me) for general gaming and minor music listening.

All that being said, the Z-2300 will probably pump out more bass than the AV-40's due to the dedicated sub and amp design, so consider carefully the pros and cons. The AV-40's will sound significantly better in general than the Z-2300s, but will not have the bass thump that comes with a 2.1 setup.

Good luck with your decision, I hope I've given you some food for thought.

Happy gaming,

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A failing PSU can be extremely difficult to identify. Since you have a spare PSU, though, you have a convenient way to test assuming it is rated for a higher load.

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#5 Bozanimal
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I'll go ahead and second NVIDIATI on the speaker recommendation. Remember, too, that good speakers last forever. I'm still using speakers I bought 15 years ago!

Also, I thought I'd throw this out there: Are you using the speakers only while at the PC, or will you be listening to music and doing other things/walking around? If it's just PC gaming, you might be better off with headphones. A $50 headphone is often as good if not better than a $200 speaker (I exaggerate, but you get my meaning). :D

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#6 Bozanimal
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You are correct in that Logitech is a mass-market, low-end brand. That said, they do have a range of products, some of which are better than others.

If you are looking for alternatives but are restricted by country, perhaps you can provide your location and budget; you would be surprised how resourceful Gamespot users are when it comes to finding a good bargain in a variety of locations!

Otherwise it sounds like it is simply the best option available to you because it is the only option available.

Good luck,

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That is a beautiful pair of headphones, and it sounds like the exchange rate made for a great deal! I hope you get many years of listening enjoyment out of them. Boz
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#8 Bozanimal
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Over a year ago my "Profile views" stopped updating. I've been curious how many folks are swinging by my blog, but it stopped at Profile views:89747 (+ 33 new) some time in either late 2009 or 2010. Is this getting an update in Gamespot Beta, being discontinued, or is there some other way to track page views of which I am unaware?

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#9 Bozanimal
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Bose vs Logitech :lol: both bad.

Should try proper brands; Bowers & Wilkins, KEF, Klipsch, Dynaudio, Denon, XTZ, Maratanz, Dali, Cerwin Vega, etc, etc...

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To preface, I am not a fanboy, and I do not own any Bose products or work for the firm. But to say that they're "bad" is a disservice to anyone who loves audio.

Bose is not designing high-end or home theater speakers. Too often they are confused for a speaker company. They are designing audio solutions for specific purposes. Look at their lineup and you'll find traditional 5.1 and 2.0 speaker systems (wood cabinets, floor standing mains) are rare. Instead you find "wave" radios (which actually use a pretty cool transmission-line cabinet), noise reducing headphones (they INVENTED them), and microsystems. Mirage's Nanosat and similar egg-shaped speakers possibly wouldn't exist without Bose Acoustimass having preceded them. The 901's that were their original claim to fame were designed to distribute sound throughout the room, not to have flat frequency response.

Most of what they make are aimed at offering great sound in a small package at a reasonable cost, and in a form that the average user understands. They spend over $100 million a year in research and let me tell you: Their engineers are anything but stupid.

Their speakers aren't exactly audiophile, but they really aren't meant to be. They design their audio equipment to achieve specific objectives, like not tick off the spouse because they're huge or ugly, fill a room with sound, or to remove external noise. They've been trying to improve the audio of flatscreen televisions lately; not everyone is going to employ an external amp and speakers (most do not). Bose is an amazing company that has produced a lot of technology adopted (and refined) by its competitors for good reason.

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#10 Bozanimal
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If you JUST ordered the 5670, I would strongly recommend you return the card if you are not interested in building your own PC; shipping and a restocking fee are a small price to pay to get most of your money back towards a new PC. Consider iBuyPower for your new PC; despite the silly name they are very well reviewed and offer quality, pre-built PCs using components at a very reasonable price. You can buy direct through iBuyPower or from Newegg. Newegg may even forgive the restocking fee and/or shipping if you tell them you want to use the return as a credit towards the purchase of a new PC.

If the boutique brand makes you nervous, a Lenovo is certainly not a bad alternative.

Good luck,

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