There's a big difference between the most popular competitive games and which games are the best for competitive play (requiring the most skill and therefore having the largest skill differentiation between new players and professionals).
I pity these console gamers. Now that 3D has been announced for Xbox 360 and PS3 they suddenly praise it as a 'revolutionary step forward'. Funny because PC gaming has had 3D support for years, without even requiring a 3D television, instead only needing a 120Hz or higher display and the Nvidia 3D Vision glasses. To top it all off, almost all major past PC games are supported on Nvidia 3D Vision in addition to the all current releases. Well, look forward to your 3D games that will start arriving in a few years, and enjoy the high price of 3D televisions. Definitely enjoy the probably limited support list and no updates to past games.
PC games have had 3D virtualisation (remember that 3D rendering is totally different to 3D image display) for years since Nvidia 3D vision was released, including full back-catalogue support for almost all well-known PC games since 2000. All that's needed it a 120Hz or higher refresh rate display, an Nvidia graphics card, and the Nvidia 3D glasses.
but it helps a ton with immersion, imagine playing Bioshock like that and having the wall cracking with water starting to pour in, I say awesomesauce.Mestitia
And it's highly likely that Nvidia 3D vision supports Bioshock and has done for years since the system was released.
Consoles are so far behind the times it isn't even funny. Nvidia released their 3D vision system for PC years ago and it offers 3D virtualisation support on a massive back-catalogue of games, not just newly releasing ones. Almost every well-known game since 2000 is supported now.
Then why don't you? Would save you a bit of money you no longer have to use for your PC
Wardemon50
I would if it actually saved me money, but i've purchased my PC already, so if I stopped using it, it doesn't save me anything. Write an essay on your droid, program a game on your 360, mod a game through your Wii, overclock your PS3, etc The list is endless if you give examples of any general task, of course. Even with regards to solely gaming-related functionality the PC is still vastly superior to the consoles. Try making a gameplay video, machinima or frag movie from your console without forking out $200 for a HD capture-card, or try downloading mods for your games., running your own custom dedicated server or setting up a clan forum on your console.
Obviously if you want real surround sound for either, you would have to go buy it. So, provide a 150 dollar computer, that can play any game, and any game coming in the next 4-5 years. Obviously you can't, console gaming is clearly cheaper, and also, as this thread has already said, is more convenient and has much less hassle.fastr
Again, if the Xbox 360 console costs just $150, it does not support HD, surround sound or online play. Surround sound on PC = $60 for analogue 5.1 speaker system, sound from motherboard. Surround sound on consoles = $200 for speaker system with optical input and Dolby Digital decoder.
Just went to bestbuy.com, looked at a couple towers.. they have a power cord included. nothing else.fastr
You would use BestBuy for purchasing a computer or components? Anyway, nearly all graphics cards come with a VGA or DVI cable, and most computer from custom builders come with said cables.
I didn't realize all computers come with a 5.1 surround sound speaker setup, optical cables, ethernet cables, a good gaming mouse, a VGA cord. Those features come with a console, you may need to buy a 5 dollar cord.. oh no? IF you paid enough for your pc to have good enough sound card, video card, to do those things, you STILL have to go buy the cords. Good point.. you have to buy cords for things.. ok?fastr
I didn't say that computer came with a surround sound system...I just said that on PC you save a significant amount of money because you can buy an analogue speaker system for around $60, whereas both consoles only support surround sound through optical (S/PDIF), meaning that the surround system must have an optical input and must feature some form of Dolby Digital decoder - the cheapest these systems go for is around $200. A sound card is no necessary in a modern PC as all modern motherboards feature both full analogue and optical surround sound output capabilities. A massive $140 approximate (probably higher) saving on surround sound for PC compared to the consoles. Ethernet cables are necessary for any console for a wired internet connection as well as on computers, so this is of no relevance. The mouse/keyboard issue is the only valid issue you raised, although a good quality combination pack can be found for around $20.
um.. yes, the 150 dollar xbox DOES support HD, DOES support surround sound, DOES have online play, yes you would have to pay for xbox live of course, DOESN'T lack any other additional functionality, possible something might be restricted due to not having a HD, which could be fixed for about 20 bucks. consoles aren't PC's.. just because your buying it cheap doesn't mean it has everything left out.fastr
I have no idea how you intend to run HD video signals out of that budget Xbox 360 through the included composite cable. I also have no idea how you will utilise surround sound from it without a supplied optical cable or the necessary adapter for the Xbox 360 (seeing as it lacks a dedicated optical output). Definitely strange that you got a surround sound system with an optical input and Dolby Digital decoder for the same price as you could find an analogue speaker system for the PC. Your argument that 'buying it cheap doesn't mean it has everything left out' can be applied to PC gaming as well, so thank-you for that. Buy a PC case for incredibly cheap price, then using your method, HD functionality, surround sound support, and all other features just materialise out of thin air. Magic is a great way to save money I must admit.
you mean game over.. wait for your free replacement console?fastr
Good point. Console warranties last forever as we all know, so a replacement console will still be free even centuries after purchase.
[QUOTE="CentricStorm"][QUOTE="fastr"][QUOTE="CentricStorm"]This depends entirely on the methods used to determine which is the cheapest platform, and it does also depend upon what type of gaming setup a user wants.fastr
Ok, right now, you can get an xbox for $150 dollars for bottom of the line. It can play any xbox 360 game (except for.. ff online? the only game that require a HD that I can think of) it can play any 360 game that will be released in the next 4-5 years depending on it's life span. so.. find a pc for 150 dollars, that can play any game on pc now, and for the next 4-5 years. Like I said the price difference changes significantly according to how the 'cheapest system' is decided. That budget Xbox 360 features severely restricted functionality. Of course console gaming will always be the cheapest if you base it on the low-end versions, but the problem is that console gamers claim that their precious Xbox 360 and PS3 at the same time as saying that they have the full functionality. As you increase functionality, the console option will become more and more expensive until eventually the PC is the cheapest option. decrease functionality, like I said, that 150 dollar xbox plays every xbox 360 game.. so, in regards to gaming, it doesn't decrease anything. I'm not saying that console gaming can't be the cheapest option. I'm not saying that console gaming can't have a lot of functionality. I am saying that console fanboys need to stop making both of these claims simultanesouly. If the Xbox 360 is $150, then the Xbox 360 does not support HD, does not support surround sound, does not have online play, lacks all other additional functionality, (and still has more expensive games). If the Xbox 360 has maxed out functionality then it is more expensive than a PC with the same level of gaming-related functionality (before taking in to account the near-limitless things a PC can do).
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