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#1 Cow4ever
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[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

- Yeah, only stable democracy if in the Middle-East if we don't count other countries like Turkey and Jordan.

- Calling those who do not lock-step agree with you anti-semites isn't helping your cause. If anything it only makes your arguments look that much worse.

worlock77

Yeah it's really democratic to have a king as head of state (Jordan) and having the most journalists in the world in prison (Turkey)

Would you deny then, that the modern United Kingdom or Denmark are democracies?

They aren't head of state. But yes I think it's not very democratic but certanly much more so than Jordan where the King is the actual ruler.
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

While i didn't expect this bid to really work.

I'll just say this Shadow. you've really got three options with the Arabs territory that Israel is currently occupying. Kill them all, kick them out, accept them as citizens.

and if say you accept them, you ruin the Jewish character of Israel for good.

A two state solution is the only choice for Israel, it literally is a gun to it's head as it insists taking over more land in the occupied territories and calling it it's own.

As far as wanting Israel to have more power in the Middle East, it is already the military powerhouse in the region. But that's about the extent of Israel's influence. Outside of threatning to bomb us, nobody gives a **** what the Israeli's have to say, that is the current feel on the street in th Arab world. and such attitudes of imposing superiority towards a region that is overwhelmingly not Jewish in ethnicity or religion, will only continue more antipathy between the peoples.

Oh boy... Israel in no way has insisted of taking over more territory. Last settlement established was in 1999 I think, they had 10 months of building stop, offered a permanent with natural growth and permanent without national growth in exchange for recognition as a Jewish state. And they have given up huge pieces of land like 4X the size of Israel.

But shouldnt they give up all of the land pre 1967 with agreed upon swaps?

I don't think so. I see this as Israeli territory but still I think they should give up the most of the West Bank either to Jordan or a Palestinian state. The important thing isn't how big it is or how valuable but that it's sustainable and can support itself.
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#3 Cow4ever
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[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I don't see any solution coming to pass with Netanyahu and the rest of his coalition in power. -Sun_Tzu-
Yes the guy who has invited the other guy a gazilion times is the one you see as an obstacle...

He's much more of an obstacle than Abbas is right now. A coalition government that is dependent on the support of Lieberman is not going to achieve much at all as far as peace is concerned.

You do realize Lieberman is willing to give up way more than like anyone since he want to give up places with big arab majority to a future palestinian state form Israel including parts of Jerusalem. Granted it's not very "tolerant" of him but still don't deny this aspect.
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#4 Cow4ever
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]The only solution I see is US pulling all support from the Israeli government until very strict demands are reached.. Until then they can enjoy no support from the US and no protection from the UN for war crimes, human rights violations etc etc.. IN the end of the day a solution will never be reached when the US is unquestioningly supporting a side that does not wish for there to be two states, that has little to no care for the consquences of extreme measures.. Israel is as much the aggressor as they are the victim, worse they have been protected by the West from the beginning and have been given every advantage in the conflict.. The time has come to force their hand that they must cease the hardline policy they have been conducting for decades.worlock77

Nope I think the US needs to support Isreal because it's the only stable democracy in the middle east. And they are outnumbered and just fighting back for their self defense. People who don't see this are anti semites.

- Yeah, only stable democracy if in the Middle-East if we don't count other countries like Turkey and Jordan.

- Calling those who do not lock-step agree with you anti-semites isn't helping your cause. If anything it only makes your arguments look that much worse.

Yeah it's really democratic to have a king as head of state (Jordan) and having the most journalists in the world in prison (Turkey)
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this one is pretty cool

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While i didn't expect this bid to really work.

I'll just say this Shadow. you've really got three options with the Arabs territory that Israel is currently occupying. Kill them all, kick them out, accept them as citizens.

and if say you accept them, you ruin the Jewish character of Israel for good.

A two state solution is the only choice for Israel, it literally is a gun to it's head as it insists taking over more land in the occupied territories and calling it it's own.

As far as wanting Israel to have more power in the Middle East, it is already the military powerhouse in the region. But that's about the extent of Israel's influence. Outside of threatning to bomb us, nobody gives a **** what the Israeli's have to say, that is the current feel on the street in th Arab world. and such attitudes of imposing superiority towards a region that is overwhelmingly not Jewish in ethnicity or religion, will only continue more antipathy between the peoples.

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Oh boy... Israel in no way has insisted of taking over more territory. Last settlement established was in 1999 I think, they had 10 months of building stop, offered a permanent with natural growth and permanent without national growth in exchange for recognition as a Jewish state. And they have given up huge pieces of land like 4X the size of Israel.
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I don't see any solution coming to pass with Netanyahu and the rest of his coalition in power. -Sun_Tzu-
Yes the guy who has invited the other guy a gazilion times is the one you see as an obstacle...
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#8 Cow4ever
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just gonna leave this here and be on my way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93LFz_j5fQA

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That's the worst trailer music I have heard in my life for a game like Dark Souls. Completely ruin the mood.
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#9 Cow4ever
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Skyrim, open world, looks beautiful, not as hard as DS.Zensword
Dark Souls is also open world, and beautifuler. But yeah it's not as hard...
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#10 Cow4ever
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I haven't played Deus Ex so I am gonna say...yes! It's hard to not be superior over Mass Effect