PS3 comes with a controller and connects to your TV for $399.00, your link does not show a flat screen monitor or a keyboard and mouse so add another 3 to $400.00 dollars at least.

Besides the obvious fact the PC's come with the most bug and virus ridden operating system on the planet.

Knight-of-NINE

Soooo? For the 1000th time you can plug the pc into the hdmi/VGA or even s-video port in the tv lol

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Disagree with MGS4, Halo 3, CoD4, Gears 1, and which STALKER are you talking about? If its the first one i dont agree with that either.JangoWuzHere

Agreed. Stalker has some of the best combination of high dynamic ranged lighting and bump mapping going!

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"]

I know and it drives me nuts just how many times the price of a monitor is included by consolites. Like I've said and many others before me...anything you can plug a console into, you can plug a pc into.

Setup console...plug into hdmi port in tv

Setup PC...plug into hdmi port in tv

Setup console...plug into VGA port in tv

Setup PC...plug into VGA port in tv

consolites, see where I'm going with this? ;)

Also I love how you're all throwing convinience, required knowledge and the kitchen sink into this argument when the TC is simply saying you 'can' build a kick ass PC for this price. It's possible, it can be done /thread

VoodooHak

You're so ready to forget all the steps involved with PC setup. Research the parts. Build PC. Or, you can cop-out and lump it all into a single step. But don't totally dismiss the step.

Sure it can be done. But there's more effort involved with PC gaming. Effort. Cost. Same thing.

I'm talking about something very specific! What you plug your console or TV into! Right, do you understand that part?

They're the same right?? HDMI, VGA etc anything a console can be plugged into a PC can aswell right?

So in considering that now tell me where I was discussing how complex the process is?? Show me how that is part of the discussion when we're talking about price. It's not, I'm trying to dismiss something very very specific with my post and that is very simple, its the price of a display and how it is equally irrelevant for both console and PC lol.

Why are you introducing 'effort' :lol: into the discussion when we're not talking about effort but 'price?

Goldeneye set a bar Mario 64 set a bar nothing sets the bar this geneverquestlove

hmmm I'm not sure you know. I think the bar is only set when we look back and say wow! I think 10 years from now there may be a title or 2 that we will refer to as setting a bar! I dont think games are worse or better as far as they are 'games'.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

Love hermits throwing in the price of a tv into the situation lol. You do know that people have tv's to watch tv right and are used on a daily basis in normal house holds. But a top end graphics card isn't needed or used everyday in normal house holds.

And with the prices of tv's today, most people are either already upgraded to a hd tv, or within 6months to a year the other majority will be making the switch. And believe it or not they buy them to replace old crt sets and to actually watch tv on them lol. They will just get the extra enjoyment of hooking up a ps3 to it to finalize their home theater setup after going hd.

And also love how hermits just have $200 OS's laying around and never include its price when making these rigs to gloat about how cheap it is to play pc games.

Pluse I just got a new rig about 2 months ago and the only game I've bought for my pc since that time has been Crysis and really nothing in the future of pc gaming makes me think my purchase was worth it lol. Minus HL3, and maybe Huxley. And not Doom 4 casue its to linear lol, thats my shot at all those people that love to use that word "linear" to make a game seem crappy lol.

GreyFoXX4

I bet you love how X360 owner don't include the Xbox live cost.... There's just so many wrong in your post...

No one is putting a tv into the same category as a gpu, we're putting them into the same category as a monitor. With either a PC or console you need a display to play them on. Monitors and TVs are practically the same now, do you plug your console into a vga port on a monitor or hdmi port? maybe you plug your console into a tv vga port or hdmi? Maybe you have both pc and console hooked up to your tv or both hooked up to a montior? Maybe you have them seperate?

The point is, it doesnt matter what 'your' current setup at home is, the point is they are all interchangeable and what ever you connect your console to, you 'can' plug your pc up to. Both need a 'display' of some kind and thus if you include the price for one, you have to include it for the other.

I think we all have higher expectations now and we miss not having them met or completely blown away! I miss the huge leaps between generations and also having less games and choice but in turn this forcing me to play the game to death until every little part of the game was beat. I miss the feeling of beating Street Fighter 2 on the hardest difficulty nd getting goose-pimles when I actually heard the sound of beating M Bison after playing for hours and hours straight!

Now, I get into a game and my whole attitude is different, before I felt like the game was saying "come on beat me if you can", now I say to the game "entertain me if you can". Games have changed but so have my expectations and I've become a really lazy gamer. I think I need a week off work of just laying a single game to recapture that feeling!

Does anyone know what I'm talking about lol?

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

Love hermits throwing in the price of a tv into the situation lol. You do know that people have tv's to watch tv right and are used on a daily basis in normal house holds. But a top end graphics card isn't needed or used everyday in normal house holds.

And with the prices of tv's today, most people are either already upgraded to a hd tv, or within 6months to a year the other majority will be making the switch. And believe it or not they buy them to replace old crt sets and to actually watch tv on them lol. They will just get the extra enjoyment of hooking up a ps3 to it to finalize their home theater setup after going hd.

And also love how hermits just have $200 OS's laying around and never include its price when making these rigs to gloat about how cheap it is to play pc games.

Pluse I just got a new rig about 2 months ago and the only game I've bought for my pc since that time has been Crysis and really nothing in the future of pc gaming makes me think my purchase was worth it lol. Minus HL3, and maybe Huxley. And not Doom 4 casue its to linear lol, thats my shot at all those people that love to use that word "linear" to make a game seem crappy lol.

Bebi_vegeta

I bet you love how X360 owner don't include the Xbox live cost.... There's just so many wrong in your post...

I know and it drives me nuts just how many times the price of a monitor is included by consolites. Like I've said and many others before me...anything you can plug a console into, you can plug a pc into.

Setup console...plug into hdmi port in tv

Setup PC...plug into hdmi port in tv

Setup console...plug into VGA port in tv

Setup PC...plug into VGA port in tv

consolites, see where I'm going with this? ;)

Also I love how you're all throwing convinience, required knowledge and the kitchen sink into this argument when the TC is simply saying you 'can' build a kick ass PC for this price. It's possible, it can be done /thread

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"] Which hermits are those?, anybody who is not completely computer stupid knows you need more than just the CPU to run the latest games. But then again you wouldn't know that with your "Custom ATI Graphics Processor running at 3.2 GHZ each" Or your Hilariously low 512 MB of Ram... But anyways sounds like a great computer you got on your hands Bolo, GL on your build.Filthybastrd

"Bu..Bu... where is teh monitor!!" is unfortunately somewhat valid.... Sure, console fanbois tend to exagerrate thr price of PCs but Hermits are almost equally as good at making it seem cheap.

I for one own a laptop atm so I'd have to buy everything, to "upgrade" my PC. Getting Vista 64 along with peripherals and an I7/GTX275/DDR3 rig will cost me 2 grand (which I'll be happy to pay mind you).

No its not valid...

..what ever you plug your console into you plug your pc into...HDMI, VGA heck even s-video!!

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Dilrod"] I thought about excluding the monitor, but most people have a tv already.. what if this is a persons first pc? Also I edited as the tc forgot the one thing that compares it to a ps3.... a blu-ray drive. Even the cheapest one is $85 and its a piece of crap.Dilrod

You're missing the point...you CAN use the TV with the PC, it's that simple. You plug it in just like a monitor, it's no more or less complicated than using a monitor and you're basically trying to argue that most people won't think to do that :lol:

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"]

[QUOTE="Jackboot343"]

Except the PS3 is more futureproof than this PC.

And you forgot the disc drive and cooling, in addition to what other users are saying.

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