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[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"] what if the criminal has a gun?UnknownSniper65

If you have a dog and a decent alarm system, most burglars will just look for easier pickings. Guns don't have to come into it.

You certainly shouldn't need an assualt weapon as a 'deterrent'.

Assault weapon is such a horribly defined term.

As far as I'm concerned, the term Assault Weapon is only applicable to a gun that has a select fire capability. The issue as of today is, is that the anti-gun people are trying to change the definition of an assault weapon to include anything that simply looks like a true assault weapon.

He is a despicable man. If Obama uses an executive order to ban any guns and the supreme court doesn't overrule him, then I am leaving this country. I might wait one more presidential election.Laihendi

He can't do that. Executive orders can only enforce existing laws, not create new ones.

I'm really optimistic that any kind of AWB will not pass in congress, as the NRA has already addressed. I'm sure the NRA called up every single republican senator and congressman and counted what votes they had or didn't have. Obama would have a far better chance at passing meaningful laws that deal with background checks, instead of an AWB. However, I'm not as optimistic if it came to a stand alone "high capacity magazine ban".

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]"the militia"? BossPerson

"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

What part of that don't you understand?

Then why does it say people instead of the militia? Because the militia is the people. You need an armed populace in order to form a militia in the first place. That is why it says people.

[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]the wording of that amendment is so bad, the interpretation can go both ways and still be equally right. BossPerson

"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

What part of that don't you understand?

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Violence across the world has been falling over all so that's not a surprise, in fact 2012 was declared the best year ever for humanity. However the US still has astonishing gun violence compared to other nations and it's through comparative statistics that we see differences and not just the statistics of a single nation against it's self. Audacitron

I can also point you in the direction of several countries with lots of gun control and tons of gun crime.

You're comparing a nation which has allowed firearms legally for over 200 years to nations that have flip flopped on the issues dozens of times and have generally kept firearms out of the hands of people. Gun crimes aren't used in those nations because they've never had mass access to firearms, especially modern firearms.

If you look at our violent crime rates, we're not that much higher than most nations (and why we are higher than most 1st world nations is up for debate). It's logical to assume since we have somewhere around 300 million firearms in our nation, that our violent crime rate is going to have a larger amount of gun crimes, but the overall violent crime rate isn't leaps and bounds higher than others.

When you compare our nation to nations without guns ever, you're making a very illogical comparison. You cannot just undo hundreds of years of gun culture in a nation. You cannot possibly prune guns out of the fabric of society through sweeping legislation. What you can do is accept it and build laws and enforce laws that coincide with the culture, not clash with it.

What we can do is work to reduce the amount of guns out there

By infringing upon the rights of 100 million law abiding American citizens that chose to own a firearm for all lawful purposes? Is this the right course of action in your opinion?

LOL This presdent was reelected in a electoral landslide and you want him to resign? On what basis? I'm proud he has the courage to deal with this issue in the face of so much opposition for a very vocal minority. Like it or not the majority of this country reelected this man and he hid nothing about what he planned to do in a second term. Maybe if you folks were about the organize the bat-sh!t party and actually find some time to have a platform instead of monday morning quarterbacking, you'd actually gain some traction with the american public.

Yusuke420

The constitution was designed to protect minorities.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]Then what's to stop them from getting their hands on guns? If guns don't kill people, but mentally ill people kill people, what's the next step? Just wait until they get a gun legally and shoot someone? And THEN take their gun away?br0kenrabbit

I'd be willing to bet that most gun crime by far is committed by perfectly competent folk.

It's easy to lable people, it's not so easy to deal with the actual problem.

http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/gun-violence/welcome.htm

The vast amount of gun crimes are gang related. What a shocker that is. I wonder what new laws are going to prevent those criminals from committing more crimes.

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] Dave's teasing and poking fun at you because...well...because you're not bothering to read anything anyone says. When I say, the answers you're asking for are there, this is what I mean. If you were reading anything, you'd have already known that Dave's mocking you. With this example, I'm calling it a night. You want an answer to the questions you're asking me? Read up.nocoolnamejim

I love how the vast majority of liberal talking points come from comedians.

Jon Stewart "We can't do anything about this?"

Ofcourse there are steps we can take. Many of them don't include banning something that accounts for less than 0.02% of all murders.

Punishing the masses for the actions of the few is wrong, any way you cut it.

I still feel like there are a lot of people in this thread that may not have a clear definition of what an assault weapon is. Here are two links to two short videos that explain the key difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wUGiuMpFJ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C-CLsMRcA0

By the way, the "Firearm Owner's Protection Act" of 1986 banned assault weapons.