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#1  Edited By Dasein808
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Lets go over this again, shall we.

No, I'm fucking done repeating myself to your ignorant ass.

And here is what you don't get, both parts are part of the whole conspiracy peddled by the right. ... There is no conspiracy by the Frankfurt School to cause instability to promote revolution.

WRONG! Do you have any idea who Georg Lukács or Herbert Marcuse were?

No, you clearly don't.

How about the fact that Marcuse predicted that the next Communist revolution's vanguard would be composed of: blacks, gays, and women? Interesting when you consider the recent prominence of: Black Lives Matter, increased emphasis on trans-rights,and radical intersectional feminism.

Oh yeah, then there's also the fact that many of these people also identify as communists/socialists. Most of them were also educated in the humanities in the U.S. which is monopolized by Critical Theory.

When Critical Theory is criticized, the radical left's tactic, as always, is to try and dismiss the criticism as a "racist conspiracy theory" when the motivations of the Frankfurt school are made abundantly clear in their own writings.

The members of the school and their ideas were far left radical and they still are today.

Like many SJWs of today, they also regarded themselves as the intelligentsia of the coming revolution. You are an absolute idiot if you deny these facts.

There is no conspiracy by the Frankfurt School to cause instability to promote revolution.

You are beyond ignorant.

It's the reason that the school formed in the first place! The first sentence of the wiki entry:

The Frankfurt School (German: Frankfurter Schule) is a school of social theory and philosophy associated in part with the Institute for Social Research at the Goethe University Frankfurt. Founded during the interwar period, the School consisted of Western Marxist[1]dissidents uncomfortable with existing capitalist, fascist or communist systems.

"Wikipedia confirmed NAZIS!

They were just a Marxist tea group that liked to gather to discuss their contentment for their existing government!"

Actually, they were allies with the communist agitators in Weimar Germany, but they had to flee to the U.S. in the face of the Nazi threat, so they shifted the focus of their revolutionary goals to their new home! This is no conspiracy theory, read their actual works. They make no attempt to conceal their political leanings, goals, or the methods they could utilize to achieve those goals.

So shut the hell up.

How about you? Your ignorance is nauseating and I'm sick of repeating myself to you as you dodge questions and ignore what is being said.

The origins and purposes of the Frankfurt School and Critical Theory are not a conspiracy and it's not "antisemitic" to criticize an ideology just because some Jewish intellectuals contributed to it, but that's a standard SJW tactic.

The criticism is of the individuals and their ideas not of an entire body of people, you worm.

You are insufferable.

Stay stupid.

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#2  Edited By Dasein808
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@texasgoldrush said:

@Dasein808: You are such an idiot.

This "Cultural Marxism" being peddled by One Angry Gamer, and what Cultural Marxism is referred to most as today, has NOTHING to do with Critical Theory, but the age old "Jews are taking over" conspiracy.

Stop being ignorant.

And here is another cartoon, which showed up on Ron Paul's twitter feed before its deletion where he blames a staff member. This is the theory you are peddling in a nutshell.

I don't know or care wtf "One Angry Gamer" is and "what Cultural Marxism is referred to most as today, has NOTHING to do with Critical Theory" is absolute bullshit. The term is NOT exclusive to nazis.

Critical Theory and Cultural Marxism are synonymous! Do you understand what that word even means?!

Cultural Marixsm is generally the term used when speaking to people unfamiliar with either the Frankfurt School or Critical Theory itself.

I already acknowledged that right wing extremists have their own interpretation which, unsurprisingly centers around an assault on white identity instead of an assault on the culture and government of a society with the intention of promoting revolutionary instability.

You're the one who need to stfu about matters you have never even studied beyond, "I once heard some nazis say 'Cultural Marxism' which means anyone that criticizes Critical Theory for its role in the promotion of SJW ideas (i.e. all whites are racist, non-whites can not be racist, identity politics trumps individuality, masculinity and all things associated with traditional perceptions of manhood are now toxic, etc.) is a nazi."

I don't care about some /pol-altered far right cartoon in a former politician's twitter. It has no bearing on my criticism or the reality that Critical Theory, The Frankfurt School, and Cultural Marxism are all terms describing the same movement.

Get over it and just shut up already. I forget that trying to discuss anything with you or illustrate how you are wrong results in an endless stream of insults and dodges.

Worthless.

The original version of that comic:

Funny how that works, right?

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#3  Edited By Dasein808
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@texasgoldrush said:

Leftist propaganda? Used by the left? Wrong. The left doesn't use it because they know its complete bullshit.

And here you are again, peddling this theory like the far right. Are you this fucking dumb? Seems like you are.

Here is a clue, the theory you are using is actually rooted in Nazi Germany to where the Nazis tried to control and destroy what they call "Jewish Bolshevik modernist culture" because they are trying to destroy the "Ayran nation" (which then the Frankfurt School academics fled). You, the complete dumbass, are peddling this very similar idea and claiming to be liberal. How dumb are you? You sound just like those paleoconservatives who brought the term up in the 80's and 90's (which Ron Paul was part of, and guess what, his Twitter handle had a racist cultural marxism cartoon last month) and the alt right dipshits who use it wildly.

Why don't you unfuck yourself and realize you are peddling bullshit?

Wtf are you even talking about? I was referring to your infographic from rational-wiki or whichever other similar radical leftist website where you found it. The one that misrepresented any criticism of Critical Theory as a nazi conspiracy theory. Remember, I asked you for the source of the image because it's not from a neutral source, and you ignored me; the way you always do with points you can't or won't address?

Are you this fucking dumb? Seems like you are.

Are you this incapable of actual argumentation? Apparently.

Here is a clue, the theory you are using is actually rooted in Nazi Germany to where the Nazis tried to control and destroy what they call "Jewish Bolshevik modernist culture" because they are trying to destroy the "Ayran nation" (which then the Frankfurt School academics fled). You, the complete dumbass, are peddling this very similar idea and claiming to be liberal. How dumb are you? You sound just like those paleoconservatives who brought the term up in the 80's and 90's (which Ron Paul was part of, and guess what, his Twitter handle had a racist cultural marxism cartoon last month) and the alt right dipshits who use it wildly.

You absolute imbecile. The Nazis were in open street battles with the KPD prior to their ascension to power and the start of the war. The Nazis wanted to control and destroy what they called "Jewish Bolshevik modernist culture" because they were in a power struggle against communists. They'd also already seen what had occurred in Russia and then there was also the minorly inconvenient fact that the communist revolution in Russia had origins in Jewish Bolshevik ideology!

Ever hear of the Bolshevik revolution?! Lenin?!

Weimar Germany was going to go one of two ways at that point in history and both were bad options. The Nazis defeated the communists and we know the rest.

I have already mentioned the Frankfurt school's fleeing to the U.S. because they were Marxists and likely to be persecuted or executed under Hitler due to the Nazis hatred of communists. Even though they were largely Jewish, they fled due to their political leanings, the Final Solution was not a known thing at the time.

No asshole, the idea I'm "peddling" is that Critical Theory (aka Cultural Marxism) was a system of methodologies originally created with the intention of subverting the governments of the West through deliberate attacks on its culture and traditions with the ultimate goal being to set the stage for the glorious communist revolution. This is not a fucking "conspiracy" theory it's in their own writings!

I've explained this repeatedly and your stupid ass continues to ignore what I say as you strawman claims I never made.

You sound like a SJW incapable of forming an actual argument to save your life.

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@texasgoldrush said:

Yet you discredit yourself with you terms and delving into crazy right wing and even racist theories.

No sane liberal would ever espouse "Cultural Marxism" to criticize their own....ever.

No sane liberal would ever cite the radical leftist propaganda you refused to source because they'd recognize it for the far right caricature it represented.

"Cultural Marxism" as a term is much more approachable to people unfamiliar with the ideas of the Frankfurt school because it accurately describes their methods. I don't care if it's a term also used by those on the far right because it's also a term used by people on the left as well.

No sane liberal would try and police others speech. That's SJW authoritartian bullshit.

In short, **** off.

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@texasgoldrush said:

@Dasein808: Because you are using right wing terminology and their buzzwords. That is why you are getting labeled.

You are talking exactly like a far right American spouting conspiracies about how the far left is destroying the nation. It shows.

The far right hold no dominion over terminology used to describe a particular sort of radical leftist.

The far left is destroying the credibility of the sane left. This is a fact. As an actual liberal, I will happily criticize the loud hypocritical, historically illiterate, idiots who are ruining the left for sane people.

I don't care how many times you call me alt-right etc. You can't even acknowledge the existence of the people for whom the term "SJW" was created to describe or the fact that we live in the least racist/sexist/most tolerant period in recorded history.

Your opinion means nothing.

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@phbz said:

@Dasein808: Funny that in your previous post you tried to go for the historical accuracy argument but you were quick to change your stance once I destroyed your argument.

So in the end this is just political. Having a women with a mechanical arm in a fictional game is all it takes to trigger the anti-swj hate mob. And on a series you don't even care about. As I've said in my first post I rather you guys just admit why you're doing this, than being silly by pretending this has anything to do with historical accuracy. That I can actually respect even if I don't share the same view.

What part of I haven't played or cared about the Battlefield series since the 3rd game do you not understand?

Try rereading what I wrote. You didn't "destroy" anything.

I did not "go for the historical accuracy argument," I pointed out that that was the nature of the criticisms being made by people who were interested in the game and not the SJW journalist/EA-spin that it had to do with opposition to women and misogyny general.

Your argument about nazi sharks, etc. is hollow because those are games that don't have an established history of trying to model most of a conflict's historical aspects while remaining "gamey" enough to not be considered a simulation.

So in the end this is just political. Having a women with a mechanical arm in a fictional game is all it takes to trigger the anti-swj hate mob.

Yes, it's definitely political the way that EA opted to promote the game by provoking fans of the series and then shitting on them when they were criticized. Quack already outlined the argument.

@texasgoldrush said:

And still arguing like a right winger. Why the obsession with "SJWs"?

No matter how many times you say it, it's not true.

Because they're killing the legitimate liberal left with their moronic radicalism. You seem to believe that everyone on the right is a far right white nazi in the same way that people on the far right think the left is entirely composed of SJW idiots.

I'm a fan of nuance. I recognize that extremists exist on both sides. You don't have to be a member of the right to criticize communists, and identity politic promoting SJW "activists." If you're an actual liberal, then it's exactly what you should be doing because they're destroying any credibility the left once had with their hypocritical stances and lack of historical knowledge.

So many SJWs can't seem to accept that they live in the least racist/sexist/most tolerant period in history. They seem to feel like they missed out on the heavy social lifting that society underwent prior to their birth and so they have to promote the idea that they're living in a Mississippi Burning era U.S., that women are oppressed by a Handmaiden's Tale patriarchy that views them as nothing more than birthing vessels, and that LGBT people are being killed in Trump sponsored pogroms.

If EA wants to promote Social Justice causes then I say go for it, but don't be surprised when a lot of your customer base opts to turn their back on one of your flagship franchises. I despise EA in general, so anything that pisses in their cornflakes amuses me.

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@phbz: I've previously stated that I haven't cared about this series since its 3rd iteration. I have no intention of buying this crap either.

I'm here to mock EA and its SJW alliance for their complete market stupidity.

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@phbz said:

@Dasein808: It's my look, deal with it. If you have nothing to counter why even bother?

Srsly, Let's **** all notions of authenticity and historicity!

Millenial PC history is best history.

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#9  Edited By Dasein808
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@phbz said:

I love the "historical accuracy" argument. I don't know why these people don't just accept they are sexist, since they are.

Really?

Not a good look.

Is this this the hill you want die on?/s

/clap /clap /clap

Who the **** says this shit?!

Kill me down.

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@texasgoldrush said:

@Dasein808: Yet more right wing type commentary.

Explain.