Back in the day Wikileaks and Bradley Manning were condemned for being a rogue, traitorous and dangerous news outlet and soldier. This was done mainly by the US but also by many other governments while the US and western governments congratulated chinese dissident Liu Xiaobo for being a good rogue, traitorous and dangerous person for the chinese government.

Some time later the western governments were thrillled with the "social media revolutions" going in arab countries. For them social media was giving people the chance to come together and rise against their opressive governments and take matters into their own hands. They highly condemned the blocking of the internet or social networks done by these governments. Now fastforward to England today with all those riots that undoubtely demonstrate many people are not very happy with their government and these are the measures taken by the English government:

1. Police will be given discretion to remove face masks from people on the street.

2. The government would work with the police to stop people communicating via social websites.

3. The army could be used for guarding duties.

4. Last but not least: Curfew!

So yeah of course, as always, what's good for the goose, is not good for the gander.

I still find it ridiculous that the english government is trying to make us think these people are all just thugs and thieves while ignoring the real issues underneath the discontent.

kuraimen

[QUOTE="EsYuGee"][QUOTE="Kcube"]

I'd like to see China let along any country stand against a few dozen nukes.

Kcube

Yeah nukes are just like party poppers and could hurt noone ^_^

wanna share that magic bubble protecting you? I want one.

Kcube

I'd like to see China let along any country stand against a few dozen nukes.

Give a man a Fish and feed him for a day, teach a man to fish feed him for a lifetime. We forget that saying when we deal with Africa. We give them food and yet death comes anyways. In order to help it would require military action, governments put in place and an infrastructure created. Unless this is done I doubt starvation and suffering will ever end in Africa. ferrari2001

Too bad the drought dried up the lake:P.

[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

It's not on the books. You can't just make up a debt.Nibroc420

West deports enough slaves to destabalize African population. West colonizes Africa and forces its people into hard labor. West leaves Africa and draws borders disregarding historical ethnic and political differences. West watches on a Africa self-destructs.

....somalia, sudan (sourthern sudan atleast), and most of africa/the 3rd world has the compacity to feed its starving people. sending aid isn't prolonging the suffering rather it is not productive at all. its like trying to locate more oil reserves while its obvious that oil dependency has to stop. Here the UN has to get off its but and actually get a government in control of all of somolia. That what the problem is. The UN seems to go for the quicker and easier solution that'll cost more in the long run than an actual effort to fix the problem. Somolia needs stability in the long run not 3 billion dollars worth of food aid every 2 or so years.mayceV

[QUOTE="EsYuGee"][QUOTE="lamprey263"]maybe part of the solution should be to allow them to grow their own food, set up the large infrastructure needed for water desalination and and land irrigation, provide them the agricultural resources, and slowly wean them off of food aid... the other end of their problem is their lack of government from controlling the warlords that'll most likely try to take control of any vital resourcesjunglist101

[QUOTE="EsYuGee"][QUOTE="lamprey263"]maybe part of the solution should be to allow them to grow their own food, set up the large infrastructure needed for water desalination and and land irrigation, provide them the agricultural resources, and slowly wean them off of food aid... the other end of their problem is their lack of government from controlling the warlords that'll most likely try to take control of any vital resourcesElraptor

Yeah, the biggest problem with desalination plants is the amount of energy it uses to produce water (depending on the water's salinity). That's why only a few well off nations are capable of supporting it.

As for the power structure, there are many examples, but lets take the current topic. Somalia had a stable power and economic structure until the Italians and British came in. They removed the local rulers and installed their own government. When Italian and British Somalia joined after WWII there were problems to say the least. Of course, you could research this on your own. My point is that lots of people are looking at it from a mainly American, European point of view withouth talking into consideration the different history of the country.

maybe part of the solution should be to allow them to grow their own food, set up the large infrastructure needed for water desalination and and land irrigation, provide them the agricultural resources, and slowly wean them off of food aid... the other end of their problem is their lack of government from controlling the warlords that'll most likely try to take control of any vital resourceslamprey263

Because they want a fast track, they are trying to achieve the developments the west achieved in thousands of years in a matter of decades. Of course this will lead to collapse, a massive rich/poor divide, and half the country starving to death. But their leaders still try to build modern cities and divert none of their money where it is really needed.Overlord93