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#1 GhostOfKosh1
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[QUOTE="OnLive"]because wiht onlive you dont buy a console or hardware (unless you want miniconsole for TV), oy again i doubt this comapny will fall, but that aside WELCOME TO REALITY, everything is an investment in life, i mean with the economy 2day whats stopping a bank from vanishing along with all your money? honestly get over it.JLF1



The reality is, a console or a PC game that you actually own is not nearly as risky compared to what Onlive is offering.

No, everything in life isn't an investment or risky. Gaming for one.

I have to agree with JLF1 I'd rather buy games on a system that I can own than games I buy in theory. Buying games on Onlive or dl content from console makers is a lot like buying CDO's from a bank. Why would I want to put my money into such a thing? In an economy like this I would hope most people would have learned their lessons and would see it the same way I do. I have always maintained that MS should let you buy the content online and then send it to you on a DVD. Now that MS is using Netflix maybe they are toying with that same idea. But theres a good change it's just a coincidence and they aren't planning to.

I wish I had time to research this thing, Onlive, and check it out. However, all of my time is taken up with asset management/accumulation for myself and others. I really don't have the time to check up on this thing even though I'd love to know all of the specifics of how they are planning to do this and what exactly their pricing mechanism is. I'm very curious on their complete package.

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I personally believe people need to stop saying that this is above its time. It's a step towards the future and if we keep pushing technology off its going to take years and years more to develop. I know people are afraid of change but Onlive is not ahead of its time it's just another step into the future of gaming. XileLord

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Edit: Removed the rest, probably will just do a blog with it.

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#3 GhostOfKosh1
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But what about change?!?!?!?! Seriously, though....might want to try being a little less harsh and dramatic. effthat
Harsh and dramatic is fun :lol:. Besides it's totally true. Please state what you are debating, "but what about change" doesn't mean anything to me.
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Welcome to the entirety of political histroy.Sajo7
Yep, we've been through all of this before. People are arrogant. People just don't like to learn their lessons. And for this we do get what we deserve in the end. Learn people… Learn!

I figured Obama's propsoals would have pork in them, thats just the way it is. However I'm disapointed the whole bipartisan thing didn't take off like it did with FDR's first 100 days.Sajo7

I love stifled markets and slow recoveries just as much as the next man. You guys asked for a stimulus bill and now you got it. Everyone should just be happy they got the stupidity they asked for. Either way the stimulus bill was going to hurt the economy, only the severity was going to differ (references my previous correct prediction).

Spending Bills = Redistribution of Wealth

Redistribution of Wealth = Peoples Money – Gov expenses to transfer this Money

Now you have less money to spend and you stole it.

Fooooooools reap what they sow. And in the end all you can do is laugh at it.

ps: gov expenses to transfer I've seen estimates around 15-25%.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Americans have the right to be nationalist -- without the United States of America, where would the world be right now? Would Europe and Africa still be under Nazi or Soviet control, would the Pacific and Asia be under Japanese control? :PMindFreeze
Oh yes because the US was the deciding factor in WW2... Nawttt. Anyway, no one is any more or less justified to be nationalistic than someone else.

So then Nazi's Germany should have been equally proud as any other country? A nation should only be proud of their government to the extent that it is a just society.

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[QUOTE="11Marcel"][QUOTE="Elraptor"]well, speaking of nationalism, the EU and Canada are complaining that the new stimulus bill is protectionist and nationalist because it requires at least some of the funds to be spent on work by American firms. effthat

I'm actually on america's side on this one. Leaning to protectionism will help america right now. Free trade has become a magic word that people practically worship, but it isn't all that. Sometimes you just have to focus on getting your own country at work.


Right now our leaders, many K. economists, and many wannabe economists (ie: Politicians, Businessmen, and avg Joe's) are approving policies which will have bad effects on our economy in the long run. (Of course they make for a good trade!) Most easily noticed will be the slower recovery on the way back up. However, I'm PROUD to say that global cooperation is one of the big things America is doing right. In fact, I'm extremely IMPRESSED with the global teamwork, or at least what I see of it so far. If you start to cut this off we may have a little competition with the big D. Trust me you don't want this.



I realize that a truely free global economy moves us in the right direction, I have to point out that we have a 7% and growing unemployment rate and the remaining 93% are tightening up their purse strings. Without a serious job creation effort in the states we won't see the necessary boost in consumer confidence to push the relatively few who still have the clout and capital off of the fence. In short, jobs are needed to kick start the machine and start moving forward. Unless Canada would rather see a collapse of power in the country that shares the largest border in the world? (I think it's the longest...anyone care to verify, dispute, or otherwise question?)

Canada needs this to work as much as America needs this to work. Where else will you send Celine Dion?!



Consumer Confidence:

~Fundamentals will always own consumer confidence. That was hopefully shown to everyone back in January when I was in the minority saying it was an "artificial rally". There is a big difference between the short-term in the economy (ie: consumer confidence) and long-term (fundamentals). Fundamentals will always win.

Jobs will lead the way?

~Business in a way is like war. When you are losing you need to pull back, regain your strength, and prepare to come back more intelligently. Then later you come back out and dominate. So to answer your question, efficiency will lead the way to long-term profits and this will lead the way to job creation and expansion.

Celine Dion

~I'm not a big fan of Celine Dion, so no worries there :D

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[QUOTE="GhostOfKosh1"]

[QUOTE="11Marcel"]I'm actually on america's side on this one. Leaning to protectionism will help america right now. Free trade has become a magic word that people practically worship, but it isn't all that. Sometimes you just have to focus on getting your own country at work.ktseymour

Right now our leaders, many K. economists, and many wannabe economists (ie: Politicians, Businessmen, and avg Joe's) are approving policies which will have bad effects on our economy in the long run. (Of course they make for a good trade!) However, I'm PROUD to say that global cooperation is one of the big things America is doing right. In fact, I'm extremely IMPRESSED with the global teamwork, or at least what I see of it so far. If you start to cut this off we may have a little competition with the big D. Trust me you don't want this.

Please define what your definiton of Global Coperation is? I think I know what your saying, and your right in some respects, but if you mean trade, then I've got to disagree. Most WTO deals aren't made with any country or people in mind, they are made with money and influence in mind. That is the meaning of a multinational corperation; or.. he who has the most toys wins. i know a bit simple, but I don't feel like going in depth.

By global cooperation I'm referring to the ability for a person in one country to invest in another country as they ordinarily would.And not implementing policies like the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act which impede trade/globalization.

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[QUOTE="Elraptor"]well, speaking of nationalism, the EU and Canada are complaining that the new stimulus bill is protectionist and nationalist because it requires at least some of the funds to be spent on work by American firms. 11Marcel
I'm actually on america's side on this one. Leaning to protectionism will help america right now. Free trade has become a magic word that people practically worship, but it isn't all that. Sometimes you just have to focus on getting your own country at work.

Right now our leaders, many K. economists, and many wannabe economists (ie: Politicians, Businessmen, and avg Joe's) are approving policies which will have bad effects on our economy in the long run. (Of course they make for a good trade!) However, I'm PROUD to say that global cooperation is one of the big things America is doing right. In fact, I'm extremely IMPRESSED with the global teamwork, or at least what I see of it so far. If you start to cut this off we may have a little competition with the big D. Trust me you don't want this.

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#10 GhostOfKosh1
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I don't mean to be contraversial but it does seem like Americans get really threatened when their percieved "supremecy" is equaled by another country or union. This is a good thing though because it sends the message that we need to stop sending all our jobs overseas.

peppersfan2

First, there is nothing wrong with hiring overseas as long as you are getting your monies worth long-term. From what I hear Dell hired a bunch of people overseas that didn't know what they were doing for customer service. If you decide to become an inferior customer service organization then you deserve what you get. But if you are getting better employees or better bang for your buck in long-term real value to your business then all the power to you. Why discriminate? People are people wherever they live and should be hired equally.