[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]
your using the word 'entitlement' wrong.
if you and I sit down at a table and we agree that I will give you $100 but if I get sick then you will care for me that is an agreement and I am actually 'entitled' to invoke our agreement. you seem to feel if people sit at a table to agree on something that its unreasonable for you to honor that agreement.
That is how social security works. That is why its called an entitlement. Just like a bank is entitiled that you pay back the loan.
So on top of it making sense from a moral perspective it also just so happens to actually work better in practice too.
SEANMCAD
What I thought why they call it entitlement is because of the age discrimination it uses. Only people 65 and over or with disabilities can use it? Why can't I depend on myself to save my own money to pay for myself and family when we need it? I don't care about people who use their own money unwisely. I feel bad their in that situation, but it's not my responsibility for them to have their needs.personally I think the idea of not participating should be an option, totally. But the reason its called an 'entilement' is the same reason the bank is entitled to you paying the loan. Its an agreement.
So that is why when they talk about taxes there is 1. 'discretionary' meaning money that can be spent however each year depending on how we want to budget it. and 2. 'entilements' which are loans and the like which the goverment are obligated to pay back because we made an agreement (social security).
the media however wants to spin it differently to push an agenda.
I would never agree to our table sit down if you gave me 100 dollars if I had to cover your medical expenses in the future. There is no profit for me if your medical bills go over said amount. But the thing is I can't remove this money only after a certain age permits me to. What if the absolute worst happens to me? I get brainwashed into thinking this is a good system. No. Just kidding. I die before that time? I was just forcibly taxed so I couldn't pay out of my debt sooner to spend money for the stuff I want. The media is scripted. I don't know how it's spinning this topic because I don't follow the main stream. But all it is, lights, camera, action. Just like movies. 
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