[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

Yea, because sitting in a waiting room for 3 hours in an ER-doctor queue is much more desirable than seeing a Primary Care Physisician every few months, who actually knows your name and tracks your personal medical history, to prevent whatever is ailing you from happening in the first place...

Relying on ER visits when you're already in bad shape is not a quality healthcare system.

(Sorry for all the edits- trying to eat and type at the same time)

ristactionjakso

its actually very amazing how little people know and how much standard humor as been created around things that are actually not even true.

medicare and medicade are and have always been more efficient then private insurance.

SEANMCAD

Relax, I was making a joke.

Darthmatt

I agree with this. As of right now there are people who don't buy coffee in the morning. Those people are not fully awake and are a drag on society because they don't work as hard as someone who buys starbucks coffee in the morning. Their reduced ability to work increases labor costs which causes everyone to pay for those costs. So we might as well just force everyone to buy coffee so the costs are reduced. You, sir, are a genius. You just solved the labor cost problem.

But you know what? I think we should take it a step further. The government should actually TAKE OVER all coffee shops in the USA and provide everyone with free coffee so that way nobody pays anything AND everyone is well caffeinated. And now that I think about it, they should also provide us with food, clothing, hair, computers, TV, furniture, healthcare, and transportation. What could possibly go wrong with the almighty government taking care of my feeble self?

hoola

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

Let me try to decontruct this twisted hatred you have.

1. Everyone needs healthcare, just like everyone needs an education. Basic human needs/rights. (This is the genreal idea we're going with. If you hate helping other people through a greater good, than I'm sorry for you. I truely am.)

...

Netherscourge

No, healthcare is not a right. If you hate helping other people we should stay on the sytem we have now. The system that can't turn people away from hospitals that can't pay. How is this system less helpful than this new tax?

Yea, because sitting in a waiting room for 3 hours in an ER-doctor queue is much more desirable than seeing a Primary Care Physisician every few months, who actually knows your name and tracks your personal medical history, to prevent whatever is ailing you from happening in the first place...

Relying on ER visits when you're already in bad shape is not a quality healthcare system.

(Sorry for all the edits- trying to eat and type at the same time)

So if I don't want health insurance then i get taxed. If i get taxed and don't want to pay it then people come to my house with guns. That means if I don't want health insurance then people will come to my house with guns. :?

Someday people might evolve past the point of behaving like societies from thousands of years ago - "I think it is right, therefore I will force it upon everyone." Liberals and so-called conservatives need to realize that they are moving societybackwords when they use government to do what THEY want. Government has always been used to take freedoms away from people, and it continues to be used that way.

hoola

If widely define "need", I want the government to provide me housing and food so I don't have to do $hit........Mafiree

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

But they do the same THINGS.. IF we rose taxes for every one than had tax write off, it would have the exact SAME affect.. And thats what the government does all the time based upon behaviors.. And through your logic its EXACTLy the sam ething, if we don't do certain behaviors we get taxed more all the time!..

Netherscourge

I can behave a certain way without buying anything. The fact of the matter is I do not support the government forcing somebody to buy anything by threatening them with a tax increase. Nothing you say will ever change that.

Let me try to decontruct this twisted hatred you have.

1. Everyone needs healthcare, just like everyone needs an education. Basic human needs/rights. (This is the genreal idea we're going with. If you hate helping other people through a greater good, than I'm sorry for you. I truely am.)

...

No, healthcare is not a right. If you hate helping other people we should stay on the sytem we have now. The system that can't turn people away from hospitals that can't pay. How is this system less helpful than this new tax?

Demonize.

[QUOTE="ad1x2"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]They are pro-life but support liberal use of the death penalty.. ?sSubZerOo