Whats hypocritical is the lems get all pissy when games are displayed 1 year or more before release but they are fine and start bragging and shitposting over a console that is 2 years away, one that isn't even a new gen hardware and won't really matter for people still on a 1080p set (as said by mr. xbox himself).

Yep... won't affect me, I don't play any of their games. Last MS games I played were Age of Empires 3, Rise of nations and freelancer, over 15 years ago. They don't make games like that anymore. I play mostly top down rpgs , civ, space sims, and paradox strategy games on pc...which I get on steam.

Yep this.. I have a wife and two kids and a dog. I don't have the money for that. Who has the money for a new tv, a new $500+ console and new games coming out? Only basement living, trust fund kids or the mega rich can afford that in this economy.

Lets also not forget that the PS4 gets all the Japanese game support. Looking forward to star ocean 5 in two weeks!

Right on... I am getting sick of it too. I watch a whole forum (cough neogaf) turn into a cesspit of craziness and anyone who disagrees gets banned and dog piled. It's insane. This stuff started with that Anita character and her so called ex who along with verge and others are now taking up Jack Thompsons stance because of Orlando (which had nothing to do with video games ).

Sorry to go off on a rant but I am so tired of this sjw bullcrap. I am glad there are still normal people on gaming forums here as sometimes it seems the whole world online has gone insane. Identity politics and critical theory are poison and they poison the young..

Bottom line leave our games, tv, books, movies etc.. alone... Make new ones if you want different characters, most of us hold value in the existing and don't want them to change for the loud vocal minority. I have no problem with games with female characters and never had, I don't think any gamer has. We all love laura croft and Samus and I can't wait to play Horizon Zero Dawn (although I did boycott mirrors edge because I refuse to buy a game that the devs get direction from sarkeisan).

@foxhound_fox: Exactly .... leave link alone. He is a character. If the feminist and sjw troops over at gaf want one female characters so bad there are number of good new ips that have them. Characters that are established need not change. Why do people want to change things that are already established? I don't get it, all it will do is breed resentment.

I have no problem with female characters but don't touch existing ones.

@micmill: Great theory, i was thinking something similar, with the snowy climate and all. Cant wait to find out. Also like the switch in perspective.

@zeeshanhaider: How is it a bad story? History had people in different regions who worshipped different pantheons, its myth and legend. Dont know why you are getting butt hurt about. Know some history, poeple were tribal and still are in many places in the world. No one said mythological gods have borders but they were worshiped by set tribes.

Also where did the border thing come from, I didnt get that from his idea? Nations are supposed to have borders, smaller areas are easier to govern and people in different areas have different traditions and different economies and problems. This is life, not some utopian pie in the sky marxist bullcrap that causes tyranny.

@Guy_Brohski: most of the people buying for multiplats and cod etc.. are doing so because thats where their friends play. Also price. Most people wont go buying a new 4k tv, most people will buy the cheapest system with the most games. This isnt a new gen not many people besides rich or people in their parents basement will.be buying either system especially if they already own a bone or ps4. Then thers is the fact that both og models will be cheaper too.. wherw most people who dont have a system yet will buy. Why, because if they dont have this gens conaole yet its probably because they cant afford it, otherwise they would own one by now.

Ps4neo and scorpio will be for a loud, rich, minority. Hell many people in the US are underemployed or laid off.. there not going to waste mobey on a $500 console and $600+ tv combo ( if you dont have 4ktv there is no point anyway)

Does it really matter at this point? This isnt ew gen tech. I predict many arent even going to be buying these unless you live in your parents basement, are single with no life, or super rich.

The prospect of buying a whole new console in the same gen for a few fps and a resolution bump for a television i dont own would be well moronic.

If this was a new gen i could see the power difference mean something. But most console owners dont go in for power, they go in for price. Look at the ps4 launch, that $100 difference was everyrhing. If xbone was $400 at launch and ps4 was $500, this gen would be reversed (and if ms didnt screw over gamers with drm announcments and kinnect)

Then you also have to take into account the people already invested in ps4, more than double the bone. These people arent going to drop all their downloaded games and friends list for a bone ver2 with a few more pixels on the same gen. It would be like snes people shelling out for a genesis with 32x combo...it just is not going to happen besides a small minority of loud rich lemmings.

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@resevl4rlz: Thats my thought as well. Why would anyone waste their money on an expensive 4k tv when most already have 1080p tvs at large sizes. I know as a father of two kids, a tv like that would never be ok in our budget, let alone another console. Unless you live in your parents basement, dont have a wife/gf/kids, then i cant see many shelling out for a $1000+ tv and $600+ console (scorpio or neo).

Hell i will stick with my ps4, Gaming pc, 3ds and vita until a true next gen machine is out ala PS5... The ps4/xbone are stiol only a bit over 2 years old.