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#1 Mitjastiskovski
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New GPU will be released sometime in the middle of 09. I would recommend you just get 4830 or 4850. 4850 is more powerful and is the best bang for buch GPU out at the moment. They are around £110-£140 depends on what you get. I would recommend you get one with double slot cooling since they run quite hot.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/148468/show_product_overview (It's not double slot but provides good cooling)

Also make sure your PSU is good enough. As for your other question, yes newer GPU will be better and the current ones will drop in price once the new ones get released.

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#2 Mitjastiskovski
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I still have my old x1950pro. I can play most of modern games on medium/high settings, since my monitor only supports 1280x1024. I don't really see the reason to have the best GPU since most budget stuff will do the job. There are way too many people becoming graphics wh*res lol
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#3 Mitjastiskovski
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wow 30mpg.You can see that the market is america. Here in europe and most likely around the world, cars can easily reach 50-70mpg. In england you can buy cars that do over 80mpg. Land Rover could probobly do 30mpg and that is a heavy big car.

30mpg for that car i am shocked.

And no I would not buy that car, I rather walk.

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[QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"]And for other people saying that it is confusing since there are so many CPU's out there. Not really, you do some research and you know exacly which CPU does what and if they are any good or not. It's called research, you have the internet so why not do some research and see what is what.

teddyrob

I don't need to do further research on these CPUs, your article has shown me that they are absolutely rubbish and not worth any more of my time.

Srry but you are completly missing the point. These two CPU have never been targetted to be the best dual core CPU's. These CPU's are meant to be for the budget market and for the current price they are selling, they are one of the best dual-core CPU's you can buy and definitely the best dual core CPU from AMD.

You need to consider the price/performence before you comment and clearly you haven't

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[QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"]I didn't see anywhere in the article saying "This is Fail AMD Fail". And so what in they introducted new dual-cores CPU', maybe they will stop selling some of the old K8 dual-cores and these new ones are for replacement. teddyrob

You wouldn't see that but that is what they are thinking and that is what they say when I put what they say in italics. If you think this is a success then go ahead go buy one but I cannot see anyone here recommending those CPU to anyone.

Ye right :roll:

Plus the 7000 series is a good upgrade for the current AM2 users that cannot get a phenom CPU.

And for other people saying that it is confusing since there are so many CPU's out there. Not really, you do some research and you know exacly which CPU does what and if they are any good or not. It's called research, you have the internet so why not do some research and see what is what.

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#6 Mitjastiskovski
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[QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"][QUOTE="teddyrob"]

Here is what the article says. These chips are meaningless and useless in a market satuated by loads of cheap dual cores.

The problem AMD is has is that every dual core it currently has on the market is incredibly inexpensive, because its premium Phenom quad core chips had to drop their prices to successfully compete. This has basically compressed the market underneath it meaning CPUs are very closely priced. Add into this these new Kuma 7000-series CPUs into an already compact market and the fact that AMD has royally screwed itself when it comes to naming products and giving them clock speeds: we've seen 6000+ at 3.1GHz and 3.0GHz, 5400+ at 2.6GHz and 2.7GHz for example. When you mix all of that together and you've got a nice soup of customer confusion.

Unless AMD drops a number of K8 CPUs now and replaces them with Kuma-based alternatives, it's going to have its CPUs compete with each other in
a sea of grey and it'll leave companies with excess stock one way or the other. Then what happens if Intel decides to cut its E5200 price?

E5200 overclockers much better on top of that. This is fail AMD fail.

teddyrob

What ever Intel fanboy. The fact is the X2 7000 series perform better in games than the E5200 and are both the same price. Not everyone wants to overclock the **** out of our computers. Sure intel are better at overclocking but not everyone wants to overclock their computer to get that extra little bit of performence out of it.

That is from the article are they fanboys ? no. The dual core market is over satuated with cheap dual cores. Intel will see this reduces the prices of the E5200 and still hold the higher and middle markets. It makes no sense to come out with another set of dual cores to confuse the public and games no one is going to pair that CPU with a GTX280 like they did in the article.

I didn't see anywhere in the article saying "This is Fail AMD Fail". And so what in they introducted new dual-cores CPU', maybe they will stop selling some of the old K8 dual-cores and these new ones are for replacement.

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#7 Mitjastiskovski
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[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="teddyrob"]

AMD so fail. Dual core is finished as a viable CPU now that i7 is here.

teddyrob

its definitely not, cheap PC's are hardly ever quad core and im guessing this is the market there going for. remember core i7 is not a mainstream cpu and is aimed at the enthusiast.

Here is what the article says. These chips are meaningless and useless in a market satuated by loads of cheap dual cores.

The problem AMD is has is that every dual core it currently has on the market is incredibly inexpensive, because its premium Phenom quad core chips had to drop their prices to successfully compete. This has basically compressed the market underneath it meaning CPUs are very closely priced. Add into this these new Kuma 7000-series CPUs into an already compact market and the fact that AMD has royally screwed itself when it comes to naming products and giving them clock speeds: we've seen 6000+ at 3.1GHz and 3.0GHz, 5400+ at 2.6GHz and 2.7GHz for example. When you mix all of that together and you've got a nice soup of customer confusion.

Unless AMD drops a number of K8 CPUs now and replaces them with Kuma-based alternatives, it's going to have its CPUs compete with each other in a sea of grey and it'll leave companies with excess stock one way or the other. Then what happens if Intel decides to cut its E5200 price?

E5200 overclockers much better on top of that. This is fail AMD fail.

What ever Intel fanboy. The fact is the X2 7000 series perform better in games than the E5200 and are both the same price. Not everyone wants to overclock the **** out of our computers. Sure intel are better at overclocking but not everyone wants to overclock their computer to get that extra little bit of performence out of it.

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#8 Mitjastiskovski
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New dual-core CPU's from AMD that have been released. They are called Kuma and are based on K10 same microarchitecture as the Phenoms.

X2 7750 runs at 2.7Ghz and has 1 MB L2 cache and 2Mb of L3

X2 7550 runs at 2.5Ghz

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/12/15/amd-athlon-x2-7750-7550-cpus-review/1

For some weird reason I can't insert a link:?

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Another Review: http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/athlon7750/

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#9 Mitjastiskovski
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It does to me

when people have 900 posts and are lvl. 25 :x

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Lol I am lvl 21, 1 lvl higher than you but I only have like 121 posts. All I can say is "Owned" 8)
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#10 Mitjastiskovski
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on Catalyst 8.11 i can see the temp on my card. different card though, but you sould anyway install the newest version. it may well be that solve also the problem you have.knut-am

I installed that crap 8.11 driver yesterday and all it did was to mess my comp up. It made no difference, I still had the same problems. I think that something is wrong with the rivatuner 2.20 program.

Does anyone know where I could download older versions of rivatuner?