[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="mrxdemix"]I thought like you for a long time. I'm tired of it to be quite frank. The PC ends up being much more expensive and can have way more problems. Consoles are the way to go for all gaming except for RTS/FPS games, PERIOD. The problem with the PC is it needs to be updated frequently which is far more expensive. I think of the PC as the place to go for desktop stuff, such as applications, internet, forums, reading and writing essays. Gaming should just fully switch over to the consoles.Nerkcon

No.

What if future consoles get the following?

1.Mod ability

2.Upgraded parts. (like.... graphics and RAM?)

3.Able to use different online networks then it's own. (Like GameSpy arcade, Xfire, and battle.net)

4.Complete mouse and keyboard support.

still no, because then they would be pc's, what else they would also be able to use photoshop,word and many other perks? lol

dont people realise that consoles uses techonoly that are developed on pc's not only software's, but hardware as well,, and if they stop pushing the pc techonology foward, it will hurt gaming as a whole? gaming cant survive without pc's, if developers start developing for consoles only the industry wont be able to survive, nvidia will stop suporting games, it would be the end of gaming as we know it, graphics,A.I,pjysiscs gameplay, all those would suffer

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="Me_Ann"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]

good exclusive games that wont come to pc

/thread

Polaris_choice

Well if thats the case, one should get ALL consoles. But lets just say Im for great graphics + gameplay. Should I even bother with the console which have last gen graphics? And good games are just as many for the PC.

Last gen grpahics? Please . Uncharted visually stomps most games on the pc and its a console exclsuive.Yes the pc has Crysis but it makes pc games look terrible so stop acting like Crysis is the norm.Both consoles are outputting some of the best visulas out as of right now and they do it for a much cheper price then the pc.

Um and all you did is prove your ignorance and that you have never played it. Uncharted visually oblietrates anything on the 360 yes I own both and it beats any game on pc this year other then Crysis . I dont know how many 9's in 10's in graphics it has to score to persuade anyone. But unless you can tell me your gamertag then it just shows your biast.

uncharted looks good, but the character models(in-game) suck, GeoW overall looks a bit worse, but character models oblitarate uncharted.

[QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="hamidious"]Windows is an operating system, it doesn't mean anything to hermits, it's just an operating system for their PC that they have to use. Hermits don't necessarily feel loyal to Microsoft. If an operating system like linux becomes a viable gaming OS, then they will probably switch to it. Games usually don't work on other Operating systems because they are mostly developed using the DirectX library, which is exclusive to windows ( a way to monopolize gaming by Microsoft). skrat_01

Im using windows because its the OS that is the best for games currently. I personaly hate Microsofts monopoly over 'everything', just like apples buisness model.

Sure there are MS fanboys amoung PC gamers, but me - like most gamers use the OS simply for gaming.

theres also a large ammount of people that rather use wine and cedega to emulate dx9 (and dx10 soon) to avoid suporting microsoft, not to mention that according to most console only gamers on this forum every single hermit pirate every single software installed on their HDD , so i could also say that most windows out there(amongst gamers) arent orignal

As for pirating. I find its a waste of bandwith. I only have a 22gb limit per month- ADSL connections are crap in Australia, and PC games are so damn cheap - every title I have had in months has been retail legit - Crysis, Bioshock, UT3, WiC, BF2142, Flight SimX ect. ect.

The only game I have downloaded recently was MechWarrior 3 simply because I couldent find a retail copy anywhere.
If I see it for $10 AUD i'd buy it right away. Top game.

Hell in contrast the majority of my friends with consoles have had them chipped (PS2, Wii, 360) - which is legit here in australia. I on the other hand havent had any of my consoles chipped.... Although I do have a DC boot disk - which came with it second hand.

Hell console piracy is rampant. Look how much mod chip manafacturers make - let alone sell - and a quick trip to a torrent site sees titles like Halo 3, and Assasins Creed at the top of d'load lists.

yup, most people i know that own this or last gen consoles either own some kind of modchip, or are intrested on modding their system, also most of them who already own a moded chip bought their system in a bundle, the chip already came installed.

i own 99% of the games installed on my pc, i think its worthy my money especially since i cant go online without having a legit copy of the game.

about the windows, its very common to people to pirate it(i bought a oem a few mounths ago), since its expensive and pc owners hate microsoft, i was just pointing out that people like to boycot microsoft, and the hardcore pc user(most of them) absolutly hate microsoft, just ask around in any pc forum.

[QUOTE="Mizarus"]

soccer games http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=5&category=Soccer&type=games&mode=top&sort=views&sortdir=asc

baseball games

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=5&category=Baseball&type=games&mode=top&sort=views&sortdir=asc

basketball games

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=5&category=Basketball&type=games&mode=top&sort=views&sortdir=asc

american football games

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=5&category=Football&type=games&mode=top&sort=views&sortdir=asc

golf games

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=5&category=Golf&type=games&mode=top&sort=views&sortdir=asc

hockey games

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=5&category=Hockey&type=games&mode=top&sort=views&sortdir=asc

tennis/hunting/boxing/fishing games

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=5&category=Hockey&type=games&mode=top&sort=views&sortdir=asc

theres a few more out there, some of those are ports, but most of them are multi plataform games, not to mention that pc has mods for games such as PES, you might think consoles are better then pc for sports game, but you cant say it lacks games

Datheron

Sure I can; on the PC all you really get are EA's multiplatformers, and more and more they're console ports with minimal features compared to their console counterparts as they sense the monopoly they hold in the PC market, not to mention that the past few years they've focused much more heavily on consoles, where they make their money, so much that even PC ports are being shamefully neglected (see Madden 08 port of a PS2 game).

I will admit that the PC is good for sports sim games, as number crunching and deep statistical analyses plus online connectivity makes it the natural platform, but it's a very niche subgenre. You can argue that back in the glory PS1/early PS2 days PC's competed well with consoles in sports games, but that's no longer the case.

yea i can agree with you, in my opinion sports games are indeed better on consoles mainly because its better when played with people in the same room tho, even though pc's can do that, its easyer to do it on a console(on most cases), but i think pc's get more random sports games, like a game thats based on deer hunting.

also lately ea has been messing up with pc sports games i wont deny that.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]PC does not cut it when it comes to sports, fighting and some other games. It's just more fun to play them on a console and they are cheap.
Datheron

Reeeeally? Care to name all these sports games on the PC? For the most part there are shoddy, last-gen console ports for the PC courtesy of EA and non-existent games from 2kSports. The only sports games I can think of are baseball sims and the PES serie, but that's like claiming consoles have "plenty of RTS's".

soccer games http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=5&category=Soccer&type=games&mode=top&sort=views&sortdir=asc

baseball games

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=5&category=Baseball&type=games&mode=top&sort=views&sortdir=asc

basketball games

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=5&category=Basketball&type=games&mode=top&sort=views&sortdir=asc

american football games

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=5&category=Football&type=games&mode=top&sort=views&sortdir=asc

golf games

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=5&category=Golf&type=games&mode=top&sort=views&sortdir=asc

hockey games

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=5&category=Hockey&type=games&mode=top&sort=views&sortdir=asc

tennis/hunting/boxing/fishing games

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=5&category=Hockey&type=games&mode=top&sort=views&sortdir=asc

theres a few more out there, some of those are ports, but most of them are multi plataform games, not to mention that pc has mods for games such as PES, you might think consoles are better then pc for sports game, but you cant say it lacks games

[QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

the console has many advantages over the PC

1) its simple, you buy it, you plug it in, you play, and dont have to worry about anything else
2) Sports games are best on consoles
3) Play split screen with friends
4) cheaper then PC gaming to, with in a 7 year time period a PC gamer will spend more money on hardware then a console gamer
4) Games that interest me come to the consoles, RE5, DMC4, GTA4, MGS4, just to name a few

Vandalvideo

also isnt dmc4 and gta comming to pc aswell?

emulation is legal if you own the bios? lmao

I wouldn't want to play those games anyway since most games now include online play. the only games I have on my PC is FPS and RTS. The only other games I play are sports, racing and fighters but I play those on the 360.

Deihmos

there still isnt a 360,wii or ps3 emulator, so its not possible to emulate those, but iam accuatly more intrested on the single player component of console games, then the multiplayer, i can play COD4 and Ut3 on my pc, i really dont get along with halo. tho id like to give Mass Effect and a couple of other 360 titles a try, not to mention Street Fighter 4 iam hoping capcom will bring this franchise to the pc as they are doing with the DMC and RE series lately(also i hope they bring Re5 to pc)

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]PC does not cut it when it comes to sports, fighting and some other games. It's just more fun to play them on a console and they are cheap.
Vandalvideo

that is if you dont include arcade and console emulators, iam pretty sure thats legal in most places as long as you own the orignal game.

games that you need to own a console to play are mainly JRPG's and nintendo titles, those you cant get on a pc by any means

edit: theres also a couple of other games that never reach the pc, most of them are developed by japonese companys, MGS(and mentioned before) Okami, and the list goes on

[QUOTE="LessThanMarcus"]Because anything Microsoft is pure garbage. I use a Mac, and I still don't buy computer games. With 360 or PS3, you know every game WILL WORK on that system, unlike PC.xscrapzx

Ok what facts have you given to prove that Microsoft is such garbage, considering 84% of the world uses it? Don't you think thats kind of a yahoo statement to make? Oh I bet MACS never ever have any issues. They are flawless and never have been known to have errors or hardware failures, even though they are made by humans. :roll:

not to mention that any game out there right now runs on my pc, and can a ps2 run ps3 games? i dont think so, and yes its the same thing

[QUOTE="mismajor99"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Find me a PC for $350 that can play the latest games. Note that I own a laptop, and therefore don't have a monitor, case, kb/m etc.doobie1975

That's your problem. A PC does so much more than just gaming, hence the higher price. You get what you pay for, which having a PC capable of gaming above and beyond everything else it does is golden. Logic people, logic.

Yes I do have all three current consoles, as I enjoy all platforms, but let's be realistic here.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Mizarus"]well you agreed that theres good games on consoles, then those games should warrant a purchase, therefore not being pointless. the point of owning a console is, playng games that dont come out for pc and that attract you more then the Pc libary, also it has a easy interface so anyone can use it including kids, and kids and teenagers still are the core of console gaming(yes i know pc's are simple enough ive used them since i was 6 but thats not my point)i belive pc gaming is indeed superior, but i cant say everyone should agree with me, because i can understand how somone would rather play on another plataform, it dosent matter if it has worst graphics and less games, snes and ps1 both have games that are better then most of the crap we are getting this gen, not to mention dreamcast that had a very small libary but lots of amazing games.he main reason i like pc better is because its not only a gaming machine, i can use teamspeak all day while playng diferent games, i can check my email while i play games and do all sort of stuff like mess around on 3dstudio and photoshop, if id choose a plataform just for gaming i dont think id be able to make a decisionMizarus

yes, but i think hardware wise everyone should be able to agree that the pc is indeed superior, but for some reason, even on that topic theres some discussion

all togther now......."we all agree pc's have supperior hardware" now you have too agree you pay a premium for that superior hardware

it depends , where i live pc gaming is much cheaper then console gaming, here a wii retails for around 500$, 360 750-800 and ps3 900-1200 U$D