I posted in another thread Coolaler's results of piledriver, which weren't too promising. Bottom line: AMD in the CPU industry is now relegated to nothing more than a budget oriented joke when it comes to the desktop segment.

I think part of the problem is the inferior fabs they're forced to use (TSMC, Globalfoundries) that simply can't match up with Intel's. That's a huge part of it, as much as the engineering aspect of it.

IF AMD wants to regain some crediblity in their high end CPU line, they need to ditch the Faildozer architecture and come up with something more efficient than their crap module design which isn't well catered to most software today. Also, they need to seriously look at improving their node cadence cycle. Be more aggressive. Lastly, their idiot CEO has to stop coming out and basically saying they've given up in the high end segment. Only an idiot fesses up to something like that. Keep it under your nose you clown.

SolidPandaG

You speak as if you are some sort of an expert, yet you talk like some kid that is cutting class.

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meh,wasn't expecting much from AMD, They don't have the engineers to do it, they're underfunded. Sadly they're also dragging ATI down with them which truly sucks, since ATI radeon graphics are the best bang for buck graphic cards always on the market. I just hope google or some other company buys up AMD and get the real party started.

blaznwiipspman1

i have a feeling that nvidia is just purposely matching amd radeons graphics and not trying to really beat them. That way they can milk more profits with a half assed card. Nvidia is a business and they want to make money, so manipulating the market is best for them. I mean, nvidia could demolish AMD but then amd would be bought out by a much larger company and then nvidia would be taking in a smaller cut guaranteed so they have no reason to. I don't think AMD is doing well, but nvidia is not trying as hard. Obviously i dont have proof, but when you think about it, it makes sense.

you mean "when you don't think about it, it makes sense."

[QUOTE="michaelP4"]At the same time though, The Catholic Church does have the power to do something about homophobia and they choose not to. Same with the Anglican churches as well. Homophobia in Africa must be challenged, just like how racism in the USA was challenged. There's no good sitting around not doing anything or simply condemning it.N30F3N1X

Yes, forget the problems we are going through at the moment or the other even bigger problems Africa is going through at the moment. Homophobia is what we should be proactively fighting in those countries.

*slams head against the wall* Why are there so many deluded blind people on this board :cry:

Just because there are bigger problems doesn't mean that this is less of a problem.

Evangelicals don't need to be going to africa adding more problems.

Not just the gay thing, but they also are opposing condoms in africa pretty heavily and last time I checked, aids was an issue in africa

ITT: TC discovers water is wet

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Riadon2"]The only game I've ever seen use 4 GB of RAM is S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Call of Pripyat modded. I think you may see a boost in some extremely heavy games, but it would be better to just upgrade your GPU.Riadon2

I don't think the resolution affects how much system ram is used unless it runs out of vram.

Don't be an idiot and buy alienware

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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]You cant buy smaller cases without a giving up full sized graphics cards.

The x51 will last much longer than a laptop. You can upgrade the x51. For example a gtx 660 ti.

The x51 is that middle ground. I didnt want to get a laptop because you couldnt upgrade it. I didnt want to get a regular desktop because they were too big.

slipknot0129

If you think that you will be able to power a 660Ti with that 330W psu you are high as a kite.

Newsflash, technology gets better.

enjoy your bsod while playing games more intensive than pong

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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

quake live age group is 18-30 ;>

superior quake live race

also do any of you think microsoft cares about what these ppl think? Microsoft is the one in control, not these companies lol.
People aren't going to give up windows to go to OSX or Lunix just because a few companies don't like win8.

JigglyWiggly_

Yeah but quake came out when the people who are 30 were teenagers

and?

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[QUOTE="Marfoo"] You just contradicted yourself once again. You just agreed that price is always a factor and then suggested a more expensive option. You just "dumping the cash" on a high-end laptop is the EXACT same thing as people just "dumping the cash" on a slim desktop like X51.slipknot0129

reading comprehension fail

the x51 is outgunned in every way by any device that specialized in anything.

Mobility

Power

You need to pick one.

There are smaller cases you can get, and as to whether they are are ugly or not is completely subjective.

Laptops are more mobile and some of the "gaming" laptops are as powerful if not more than x51s

and any midtower self built system will be better.

And when you get to the point of modding the x51, may as well go all out and mod a whole system. Hell I used to have a computer in a cardboard box, I have friends that have their components bolted to the wall sans case. I know someone with their computer inside a tank with oil as coolant.

The x51 will last much longer than a laptop. You can upgrade the x51. For example a gtx 660 ti.

The x51 is that middle ground. I didnt want to get a laptop because you couldnt upgrade it. I didnt want to get a regular desktop because they were too big.

If you think that you will be able to power a 660Ti with that 330W psu you are high as a kite.

[QUOTE="Marfoo"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Lol wow.

mitu123

IE is still necessary. For instance I have to use the web app for my vmware server at home through ie9, doesnt work with firefox/chrome/opera

there are a lot of things that only work in IE