@MigGui: Conservative bigotry is rooted in a deeply held and widely practiced religious faith. Just because you call it “outdated” doesn’t mean it isn’t a principle foundation for the philosophy of over one billion people.
You’re thinking it shouldn’t exist doesn’t make it go away and you calling it outdated won’t change anyone’s mind.
ignoring this reality is a colossal mistake and Trump doesn’t happen without it.
Simply applying the label “bigot” to someone who feels they are following a serious religious principle is foolish. Do you think name-calling ever made anyone more inclined to listen to you?
Clearly you lack the capacity to understand that other people have different philosophical views which don’t rely on racism or even a political parties platform.
My dad voted for Trump twice and it’s why I have an understanding.
He’s not racist, he’s not fascist. He’s a hard-working self-employed Christian who votes for who he thinks will protect his religious freedom. He views Democrats as taking stances against his religious views on abortion and marriage as well as fear-mongering by use of scientific data manipulation in the area of climate, environment and social justice.
He doesn’t want to cut brown people out of America, he wants the laws on the books to be upheld and he finds it morally reprehensible for some people to cut in line by lying about their refugee status.
He doesn’t hate black people, he thinks cops shouldn’t kill anyone but that people who physically fight with them should be aware they’re risking it.
He doesn’t hate gays, he believes in what his faith says about marriage.
He doesn’t hate women, he thinks god creates life and pregnancy is the intended natural outcome of sex.
He doesn’t want the earth to overheat, he thinks there’s a lot of data manipulation being used for political intent.
I am certainly more left-leaning than he and no longer a Christian but to take the debatable points mentioned and wipe your ass with a “Trump KKK” BS comment is exactly why Trump happened.
If you want another Trump keep ignoring and closing debate with these reasonable and persuadable people.
@MigGui: Democrats didn’t poison anyone’s mind. Fear and jealousy are already in the mind in abundance. They simply amplified the message that minority suppression is the fault of the religious right (which is a glaring half-truth, though not completely inaccurate) and ignored the philosophical arguments that exist in the conservative viewpoint. In effect, telling those inclined to lean liberal who their enemies are at the expense of honest discussion.
Donald Trump took the same model and ran with it in 2016. It was easy to do, not because of unrighteous right-wing racism but because of the perceived injustice among white Christians that their real and philosophically grounded views had been ignored or distorted for decades.
It’s not that I even agree with the religious right, I actually lean more left, but I’m a history/philosophy buff and this is the way I see it.
You are right about this being a less than ideal forum but we’re here so, why not?
I keep reading “so what, she’s a bad actress” or “this isn’t cancel culture it’s consequences” and “careful what you say on social media.”
All of this misses the mark AND this situation she finds herself in can also be viewed through the lens of the post she got in trouble for.
What happened to the Jews was systemic, organized by the ruling party and justified with a moral reasoning (fueled by Nationalist propaganda).
The rush to hate on Trump and his supporters greatly sidesteps a much larger philosophical conversation that needs to be had to calm the understandable political tension leaders on both sides have been fomenting for years in attempts to win party power.
If Donald Trump is guilty of anything, it is using the same methods Democrats have used on minority populations for decades to attract white Christian voters.
But blaming Trump is a convenient way to ignore the other half of the problem: that Democrats have built a coalition of anyone not white Christian by making them fear white Christians.
In order to have the conversation the honest truth has to at least be recognized. But politicians have made the game much like team sports where it’s more important that your team wins, not whether the game was played fairly.
So when those on the left start targeting those who support Trump as universally “racist” and “fascist” it appears to be an absurd generalization of people who are almost universally not these things. Just like the fact very few on the left are rioters who want police dead. These over-generalizations allow us to stop seeing the other side as the humans they are and start seeing them as symbols that we fear. You know? Kind of like what the Nazis did with the Jews?
@KahnArtizt: imagine missing the point by a country mile.
The comparison was made to establish that Nazi’s couldn’t just start take Jews off the streets, there were other events which were agreed upon by German society long before that happened.
It’s a warning about the “slippery slope” of political condemnation and could have been said without the Nazi reference.
You shouldn’t lose your job for your political views.
Regarding the comparison made, the inference is that Nazi’s taking Jews in the streets didn’t happen over night and was pre-dated by other, less egregious behavior first.
“Nazi” and “Jew” is all the simple will read and they’ll get furious but there’s nothing shockingly wrong about the analogy and if you disagree IDGAF.
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