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Sorry, but freedom of speech and freedom of owning crazy *** guns does not = the same.
They are both civil liberties, and in terms of legal precendent, they are linked. >_>You can't compare them. One is philosophic and the other is materialistic.
You're thinking about it too close minded IMO. They're both declarations of the inherant rights each American citizen has.
The issue of the 2nd Ammendment is a topic of such hypocrisy among those who so strongly advocate the 1st Ammendment but then dismiss all of us 2 Ammendment advocates as just "Gun Nuts".
The 2nd ammendment was designed for us to form town malitias, in case our government attempted to mirror that British government that we had so recently escaped from. In modern time, the 2nd Ammendment is outdated and has been perverted to include owning as many guns as someone can lay their hands on.
In my opinion, gun nuts are generally people who have never joined the military or done a man's job in there life, and they regret it. Owning lots of guns somehow makes them feel better about themselves, somehow making them more of a "man."
except the fact that people who are in the military avidly support the NRA.
also, have you ever read the second ammendment? it says NOTHING ABOUT TOWN MILITIAS. it does mention militia, but it also states that PEOPLE have the right to own guns. Its not out dated, you dont decide that.
I'm in the military, bud, and I hate the NRA. Nice generalization, it made you sound very intelligent. And I don't decide it's outdated? It's still, "We the people," right? Well, I vote the 2nd Ammendment is obsolete and dangerous, and idiots have perverted it beyond recognition. Just my opinion.
if you're in the military then im surprised you havent talked to anyone. because a lot of the funding that goes to the NRA comes from the military.
yes it is still we the people, and thats why we need guns so that WE THE PEOPLE can defend ourselves from a government who might want to take our rights away.
what happens when someone says "well, people shouldnt be offended, so freedom of speech is out dated" ? what you're advocating is simply step one to that process.
Comparing freedom of speech to the 2nd Ammendment is a horrible contridiction. Also, I highlited the part of your post that reveals you to be a conspiracy nut, so I'll end my convorsation with you now.
haha are you serious? i guess george washington, and the rest of the founding fathers were conspiracy nuts. laughable attempt at getting out of a debate you cant win.
Our founding fathers were fresh out of a war with the British, it was a very real threat that the British could come back in and try to take over again. Why am I still talking to you? Go shoot your handgun and feel like a man for an hour or two, I'll sit back and watch our homicide rates skyrocket.
you arent doing a very good job here. but lets go, this is always fun
1. I dont own a handgun. I dont really need one at the moment, but that dosent mean others dont. I will however, eventually purchase when I feel the time is right.
... got me.
2. Thats irrelevant. They were smart people, they know how government works. The government has slowly been getting more involved with our lives over the years and its only a matter of time before they try to run everything. Try googling some of the things our founding fathers have said about having arms. they specifically talked of the future and violent over throws of the UNITED STATES. they saw it not as something that MIGHT happen, but something thats bound to happen because the nature of government is corruption.
You really are sounding like a conspiracy nut, no offense. What do you think a few people with some 9mm's can do against the military?
3. Washington DC has the highest (at least one of the highest, not sure of the actual placement) murder rate and the highest gun control laws.
That I didn't know, but I still think it's appropriate that it's our nation's capital
if YOU WERE A MURDERER YOU WOULDNT MESS WITH SOMEONE WITH A GUN.
Gang violence? I'm pretty sure both parties have guns...
You were the first person in my entire life to call me a conspiracy nut. Good job at failing miserably.
Keep voicing those opinions that the gov't will try to kill all of us and I won't be the last.
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