[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]H8sMikeMoore

Sorry, but freedom of speech and freedom of owning crazy *** guns does not = the same.

You can't compare them. One is philosophic and the other is materialistic.

You're thinking about it too close minded IMO. They're both declarations of the inherant rights each American citizen has.

The issue of the 2nd Ammendment is a topic of such hypocrisy among those who so strongly advocate the 1st Ammendment but then dismiss all of us 2 Ammendment advocates as just "Gun Nuts".

The 2nd ammendment was designed for us to form town malitias, in case our government attempted to mirror that British government that we had so recently escaped from. In modern time, the 2nd Ammendment is outdated and has been perverted to include owning as many guns as someone can lay their hands on.

In my opinion, gun nuts are generally people who have never joined the military or done a man's job in there life, and they regret it. Owning lots of guns somehow makes them feel better about themselves, somehow making them more of a "man."

except the fact that people who are in the military avidly support the NRA.

also, have you ever read the second ammendment? it says NOTHING ABOUT TOWN MILITIAS. it does mention militia, but it also states that PEOPLE have the right to own guns. Its not out dated, you dont decide that.

I'm in the military, bud, and I hate the NRA. Nice generalization, it made you sound very intelligent. And I don't decide it's outdated? It's still, "We the people," right? Well, I vote the 2nd Ammendment is obsolete and dangerous, and idiots have perverted it beyond recognition. Just my opinion.

if you're in the military then im surprised you havent talked to anyone. because a lot of the funding that goes to the NRA comes from the military.

yes it is still we the people, and thats why we need guns so that WE THE PEOPLE can defend ourselves from a government who might want to take our rights away.

what happens when someone says "well, people shouldnt be offended, so freedom of speech is out dated" ? what you're advocating is simply step one to that process.

Comparing freedom of speech to the 2nd Ammendment is a horrible contridiction. Also, I highlited the part of your post that reveals you to be a conspiracy nut, so I'll end my convorsation with you now.

What I find stupid is howt he UN and a bunch of countries in Europe have been nagging at us for allowing guns...They just hear the word "gun" and that's basically what their whole viewpoint of guns is...."Guns are bad. Don't allow guns" is basically their mentality. They don't concider the fact that if we all of the sudden banned guns here in the US, then criminals would all of the sudden feel free to rob houses, stores, and the whole deal without any doubt someone might defend themselves by shooting back at them...Of course not everyone is going to give up their gun, obviously. We're in a position where we can't turn back and our only option is to keep the law because once you have guns, you can't turn back and assume every gun will dissapear once you start the ban. camreeno360

But, creating a harsh penalty for having a handgun will make criminals think twice before flailing a gun all over the place. So they walk out of a 7-11 with a few hundred bucks, they'll end up with 15 years.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]H8sMikeMoore

Sorry, but freedom of speech and freedom of owning crazy *** guns does not = the same.

You can't compare them. One is philosophic and the other is materialistic.

You're thinking about it too close minded IMO. They're both declarations of the inherant rights each American citizen has.

The issue of the 2nd Ammendment is a topic of such hypocrisy among those who so strongly advocate the 1st Ammendment but then dismiss all of us 2 Ammendment advocates as just "Gun Nuts".

The 2nd ammendment was designed for us to form town malitias, in case our government attempted to mirror that British government that we had so recently escaped from. In modern time, the 2nd Ammendment is outdated and has been perverted to include owning as many guns as someone can lay their hands on.

In my opinion, gun nuts are generally people who have never joined the military or done a man's job in there life, and they regret it. Owning lots of guns somehow makes them feel better about themselves, somehow making them more of a "man."

except the fact that people who are in the military avidly support the NRA.

also, have you ever read the second ammendment? it says NOTHING ABOUT TOWN MILITIAS. it does mention militia, but it also states that PEOPLE have the right to own guns. Its not out dated, you dont decide that.

I'm in the military, bud, and I hate the NRA. Nice generalization, it made you sound very intelligent. And I don't decide it's outdated? It's still, "We the people," right? Well, I vote the 2nd Ammendment is obsolete and dangerous, and idiots have perverted it beyond recognition. Just my opinion.

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Im asking because I was offered some cash (enough to get a ps3) to cut my hair, I have a 360 and wouldnt mind owning a ps3 as well. This is really a big decision for me because ive been growing my hair for about 8 years now and its very attached to me(emotionally). Not to mention my girl loves my hair as well. But its not just for a ps3 its for other reasons like job oppurtunitys as well sometimes I feel like my hair gets in the way of me getting certain jobs that I want. Taking all of what I said into factor and putting yourself in my shoes would you cut it?? Oh and so you know I have dreads and there at shoulder length.

aaronmullan

Lets see a picture.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]This "abusing prisoner" thing is just another reason why this "war" is so messed up. Soldiers have to try and act like policemen, discerning the good guys from the bad guys. They are charged with crimes if they mess up and hit the wrong person, or if some innocent bystander gets in the crossfire when a terrorist takes pot shots at them with his AK. The media has been all over the alleged "abuse" of PRISONERS OF WAR which is total BS, by the way. When terrorists capture our troops, they slit their throats on live TV like animals. If we do so much as lay a hand on a terror suspect, the media blows it up and everyone is all upset about these poor unfortunate terrorists. The information that interrogators are getting out of these suspects are saving lives, not only soldier's lives but Americans as well. Why does it seem like everyone wants to be on the terrorists' team?rimnet00

I rather have my throat slit, which almost immediately takes my life, rather then being tortured. I think most people would. Why do you think torture works?

Terrorists torture their prisoners relentlessly. I thought this was common knowledge, but considering you seem to think these terror suspects are such cuddly little teddy bears I thought I'd spell it out for you.

The information they are getting out of these interrogators? What information? Do you know how many people are in Gitmo? How many have already been released, after, being tortured, and then being told they were innocent. Including British and US citizens. Do you understand why torture is violation of the Geneva conventions?

This "torture" you speak of was a very few select ISOLATED incidents, where the parties at fault had been dealt with accordingly. The media blew the whole thing up and added some conspiracy theories to the mix.

This isn't about the soldiers. The soldiers are told what to do, and they do it. They have to, as they essentially sell their lives to the government upon enlistment. They become trained killers, and they are good at it. However, they are not to blame. The damn government is.

I AM in the military, I wouldn't care who told me to torture someone, I wouldn't do it. For some reason, you civilians seem to think that we have no brain at all, that we're some kind of robotic machine that waits for some higher up to program us to do the next move. Please.

So, when you see threads like this, use some common sense and realize that is the governmental policies that are being criticized. Even when it is a solider to blame, as the solider who commited the crime was under command of people who wear suits and smokes cigars.

Again, I'm in the service. You have no idea what you're talking about.