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#1 ShenlongBo
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Sorry to spam the thread, guys.

Couple things. First, the third vid is up, and the fourth uploaded with the quickness, so look out for that one in the next 15 minutes or so. Second, Leo, I appreciate you linking to these vids. If it makes it easier on you, I'll upload these to GameSpot as well, so then you only have to link to my video page and people can hunt the vids down that way.

Also, martial, hate to say it man, but I only actually got six of our 15 matches recorded :( Sucks too, because we missed my match as El Fuerte (pretty sure you had no problem beating my Fuerte, but still...), and that one where I 10-hitted you twice :P. But hey, it's not like we can't play and record again, right?

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#2 ShenlongBo
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Shen vs. MartialBullet Vids linkified on Page 1...!

Phantom_Leo

Thanks bruh :P There are still more on the way. I think Kreatzion's gonna put some of ours up too.

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#3 ShenlongBo
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Is there any advice you'd give on how to play as Ryu and Ken? Because I'm still getting used to the game, and playing it on the 360 controller(though performing Ultra Combos are still a pain), but I want to learn more before I go online.

ChrisSpartan117

Here's one really beastly Ken performance. Notice two things: his punishes are multi-hit links, which can have tricky timing, and he doesn't land his Ultra at all. You'll also notice the damage this guy can do by landing a simple crouching light kick, which must be the easiest thing in the world to land. So, if you have the skills to make those kinds of gains off very common openings, Ken's a good choice for you.

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#4 ShenlongBo
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Man, that 3rd round (of the second match) was nice. I started going crazy on offense and almost got punished at the end for it... I stopped breathing to see if my Ultra actually connected or not :lol:

martialbullet

Yeah man, that was a good one, lol. When you do Rog's Ultra like that you have to hold kick for the first hit, release for the second, then start holding it again for the last hits. If you don't, you'll hit twice, then go under the opponent and miss the best hits. Anyway, I totally forgot to push kick again! Very good punish on your part, btw.

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#5 ShenlongBo
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[QUOTE="ShenlongBo"]

Sorry this has taken so long. I'll start linking to each video as they finish uploading.

I should also apologize for the quality. Not exactly sure what changed between my matches with DC and these, but these seem to be way blurrier. YouTube says they ought to clear up when they fully finish processing though. Here's hoping.

Match 1: Gouken vs. Chun-Li

martialbullet

Ah sweet! I can really see the number of times I left myself open in that match and I'll probably still end up doing em again :lol: But hey, thanks to you I've gotten back on SFIV regularly. My copy of RE5 can rest for a bit now.....

Glad to hear it, man. Yeah, I found a laundry list of "what-not-to-dos" when I reviewed my matches with DC. Still do. It helps a lot though.

Second vid is uploading. YouTube is being a slow, moody little brat right now.

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#6 ShenlongBo
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[QUOTE="ShenlongBo"]

[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"]

Is there any advice you'd give on how to play as Ryu and Ken? Because I'm still getting used to the game, and playing it on the 360 controller(though performing Ultra Combos are still a pain), but I want to learn more before I go online.

ChrisSpartan117

I'm not an expert on either character, but I have some general advice that should help.

For one, remember that Ryu is inherently better than Ken in this game as far as frame advantage, damage, and I believe stun/life meters. He's also got better recovery on his fireballs, and can get good damage off 2-3 hits where Ken often needs 4-5.

If you're going to go the Ken route, remember that he demands quite a bit more practice and precision than Ryu when it comes to pulling out big chunks of life from your opponent. In other words, you'll have to work harder to punish mistakes, and missed opportunities to punish hard hurt Ken more than they do Ryu. His Shoryuken is ridiculously fast in this game, but it'll only save your skin for so long.

Ryu's Ultra is also arguably easier to land than Ken's since it can be used after any successful LP Shoryuken without the need to Focus Attack Dash Cancel. All-in-all, Ryu has a lot of built-in advantages over Ken that shouldn't be ignored. Ken is still a very good character in the right hands though.

Hope that helps get you started at least.

I've played around both characters, and it seems like Ryu is harder to learn than Ken for reasons I'm not sure of. Can you explain this?

Oh, and if you can land it, Ken's Ultra is awesome. Better than a juiced-up Hadoken.

Mmm... honestly, no, I can't explain it. It could just boil down to your personal preference, and if that's the case, I say just go with it. I also agree that Ken's Ultra looks cooler than Ryu's, but that "if" you stated is a BIG if. Ryu's on the other hand, is more a question of "when" you land it.

If you're going to take Ken up as a main, my advice would have to be to remember that you have to be a beast when it comes to punishing your opponents' mistakes. You pretty much have to capitalize on every opportunity. There are loads of high-level Ken play videos on YouTube that you should look up and watch. See what kinds of tricks work (like cross-up EX air Hurricane Kick xx Ultra) and what tactics to avoid (Shoryuken at every turn).

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#7 ShenlongBo
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Is there any advice you'd give on how to play as Ryu and Ken? Because I'm still getting used to the game, and playing it on the 360 controller(though performing Ultra Combos are still a pain), but I want to learn more before I go online.

ChrisSpartan117

I'm not an expert on either character, but I have some general advice that should help.

For one, remember that Ryu is inherently better than Ken in this game as far as frame advantage, damage, and I believe stun/life meters. He's also got better recovery on his fireballs, and can get good damage off 2-3 hits where Ken often needs 4-5.

If you're going to go the Ken route, remember that he demands quite a bit more practice and precision than Ryu when it comes to pulling out big chunks of life from your opponent. In other words, you'll have to work harder to punish mistakes, and missed opportunities to punish hard hurt Ken more than they do Ryu. His Shoryuken is ridiculously fast in this game, but it'll only save your skin for so long.

Ryu's Ultra is also arguably easier to land than Ken's since it can be used after any successful LP Shoryuken without the need to Focus Attack Dash Cancel. All-in-all, Ryu has a lot of built-in advantages over Ken that shouldn't be ignored. Ken is still a very good character in the right hands though.

Hope that helps get you started at least.

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#8 ShenlongBo
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Sorry this has taken so long. I'll start linking to each video as they finish uploading.

I should also apologize for the quality. Not exactly sure what changed between my matches with DC and these, but these seem to be way blurrier. YouTube says they ought to clear up when they fully finish processing though. Here's hoping.

Match 1: Gouken vs. Chun-Li

Match 2: Balrog vs. Zangief

Match 3: Balrog vs. Bison

Match 4: Bison vs. Cammy

Match 5: Gouken vs. Sagat

Match 6: Gouken vs. Chun-Li

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#9 ShenlongBo
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Great videos Shen and DC. Some good comebacks, some good almost comebacks, and some funny stuff. "I did not anticipate that trajectory or amount of fireballs." :lol: Videos 8, 9, and I think 13 were some of my favourites. Looking forward to checking out more videos.

Archangel3371

Haha, glad you like the videos and commentary, lol. I talk a lot when I play against friends. I'm in the process of putting my other vids up RIGHT NOW, everyone, so please be patient. Check my youtube channel periodically for updates. I only have a little while before the girlfriend gets here, at which point uploading ceases for the evening!

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#10 ShenlongBo
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Random Question (I've had this on my mind for some time, actually).

The Super Bar: It fills when you hit, it fills when you get hit; Fine. Why does it fill when you whiff moves? People with Command grabs can fill it up almost risk free. M.Bison and Vega can spam Devil's Reverse and Wall Dive as much as they need. What's the logic there? The same thing happened with 3rd Strike when people would mash Fierce and Roundhouse for a few seconds. Yes, an eagle eye can punish depending on the character, but I think it's still a valid question.

Thanks for answering. Good job on the videos and this entire thread.

MicWazowski

Whiffed specials are the only ones that build meter. So, unlike 3rd Strike, players can't stand back and poke, poke, poke to get their meter flashing.

Bison and Vega aren't the only ones who benefit from this either. Anyone with a fireball can do it, Chun can do it with her QCB+K move (I think), Fuerte can do it with his DP+K... there are a lot of examples. And even then, it takes a long, long time to get that meter up without actually making contact, so you are less likely to see people spamming it in IV than in 3S.

Hey Leo, I've got some matches coming today man. There'll be some ranked matches, and some of the matches I played with martialbullet. The camera died before we were done, unfortunately, but I've got about 6 to put up.