[QUOTE="SmartGuy2211"]

Rare's idea is what we want every game company to be as gamers- they said that they don't want to make a new game if they don't have any ideas of how they can make it, well essentially, rise above the rest.

they made pdz for the sake of making it and people hated them for that

Espada12

Yea and alot of people are loving them for what they are doing to banjo.....They said they don't want to make sequel unless it's innovative, which sucks in my opinion. I mean for crying out loud innovation isn't need to make a game rise above the rest...

i dont believe they phrased it like that.
I think they said something that basically said they only wanted to make games if they had a reason more than just making the same game with better graphics

Cause let's face it, fighting games arent as fun as they use to be. And you know, rare's true fanbase centers around banjo, dkc, battletoads, conker, etc. not goldeneye, perfect dark, killer instinct, etc.

Because they aren't part of the main series, many people will argue that they are still spin-offs. But that doesn't detriment the value of the game.

While I probably will skip Halo Wars because it is an RTS, I am all for the new ODST game unless it has some weird, quirky controls or something... I will probably get swept into the hype and by Halo Wars anyways though. :P

Zassimick

that's actually how im sitting. I probably wont get Halo Wars full price soley because its a rts (i just dont like them that much by comparison although i do still like them) and get it when it gets cheaper. The ODST halo game will obviously be a day 1 buy. Bungie has proven that they know how to make games.

---->But they are spin offs, no doubt in my mind. That being said, a spin off doesn't have to be negative. King of the Hill is a spin off of Beavis and Butthead and King of the Hill > B&B. But that being said, it's not like they're doing what they did with final fantasy and making a game about grunts and their family life

I'd say Harvest (i think) but isn't this what Halo Wars is gonna show?

[QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Halo Chronicles is in complete limbo, just so you know. It's stuck.

Anyways, Halo has a lot of fans, why not put more out there. It's M$ NUMBER ONE bankable IP, it only makes sense. Without Halo, many critics have speculated, there would have been No Xbox.

Let those fans get more of what they want.

SolidTy

I wish rare thought like this.

RARE's arguement though, is that is a mistake. Their point is why just make an IP for the sake of sales, when the idea's aren't there.

They would rather explore what ideas they have, regardless of IP. It's a different standard, but that's there reasoning.

Still, it would be pretty awesome to have them do it, but if the gameplay was just okay, they I guess It would be our fault for pressing them in a way they didn't want to go.M$ onws them though, and as you can see, their philosphy is different, perhaps RARE will sing a different tune, later.

Rare's idea is what we want every game company to be as gamers- they said that they don't want to make a new game if they don't have any ideas of how they can make it, well essentially, rise above the rest.

they made pdz for the sake of making it and people hated them for that

So, now that halo essentially has 4 games this generation that we know of so far, it raises a question: What is being milked?

Unlike Mario, there's no halo kart, etc. but everything seems to be halo like.

So I have to ask something: What's wrong with developing a universe? Halo has a very rich one. There is so much crap going on. Tons and tons. This story is larger than MGS and rpgs. However, the actual story presented to the player is more so just from a perspective. And for the most part, it raises tons of questions and really begs details to be answered, which is exactly why I said Halo would continue.

So here's the list of Halo games this generation for those of you who don't know

Halo 3 (september 25th, 2007)--------------------------------Bungie

Halo: Keep it Clean (january 6th, 2009 or june 1, 2009 )----Bungie

Halo Wars (tba 2009)-------------------------------------------Ensemble

Halo Chronicles (tba)--------------------------------------------Wingnut (peter jackson, ryan payton)

And of course there's going to be a inevitale direct sequel to halo 4 (meaning the same gameplay style and as MC), but that's irrelevant to this discussion.

I don't think anyone will question the new Halo game coming out. I think everyone understands that game is doing it how it should be done. Yes, it is technically a spin off, but seeing as how its been in development since halo 3 started, I think we'll all agree that this is a proper full fledged title. The game takes place during parts of halo 2 and 3 and we assume that you're a ODST.

And now Halo Wars- this is a prequel that uses Bungie's fiction (meaning the story is referenced from them). Halo was originally suppose to be a rts afterall, so wouldn't this sort of be a neat idea? In my opinion it is. Almost, although not really, going back to its roots. And it's made by a good dev. C&C3 proved that rtss work on the 360, and that was a pc port. A game built for the ground of for the 360 would most likely work.

And finally Halo Chronicles, otherwise known as the game that we've known about for a bit of time despite it not being officially announced. It is by Wingnut. Yes, it's a new studio, but it's most definately not a cash in- why would they get people like peter jackson, ryan peyton, and those gearbox guys if it were so? I'd imagine that this is the prequel to Halo 1 explaining the MC's past. Afterall, it is suppose to be a more cinematic type game, so it'd be more appropriate of a game to show how he came to be.

So, where do you think we can draw the line between just making spin offs and making spin offs and sequels that a lot of effort are actually put in?

How about where you start establishing a universe? The X-Men series has tons of stuff in it, but introducing a new series wasn't milkage. It was fleshing out the world. Because seriously, I know there's people out there like me who really like this series and universe as a whole and don't really want it to be stuck at 3. Yea, NG can go away, its replacable, same with stuff like Ghost Recon, but Halo is just a good place as a whole and really begs to be like star wars (although not quite like that) with many more stories.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

hey if bungie are going to be spending time filling us in on the events that happened between halo 2 and halo 3..should they think about going a step further and make a prequel?

it doesn't even have to be them making it..i just would like to see one made based off the novel.

II-FBIsniper-II

Err... why? Bungie is a much better developer than them

[QUOTE="SmartGuy2211"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]I'm gonna have to say 360 because it's the only one I own.Aljosa23

Tip: Don't buy a wii. I know it's tempting, but the wii is awful.

Because I bought it and there's just barely any redeeming qualities of it. There's like 3 games worth buying for the console versus tons. I'd suggest a ps3 as a 2nd console over the wii. It's jsut not good.