[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]Nate Silver has done some very good statistical analysis on the correlation between unemployment and presidential reelection since this topic seems to be of interest to people. Linkairshocker

So it's showing not as much correlation as was believed, but, he even says, not enough to disprove the notion.

High unemployment should affect a sitting President. And that's going to be the number one issue this election.

depends how stupid the public is imo. If they are smart enough to realize this recession started before obama, hes in the clear. But there is a reason GOP has cut education every chance they get. Facts are "liberal"

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

bodybuilders - best at building muscle mass

powerlifters = best at building strength

sprinters = best at quickly running short distances

by all means if the workout goals of everyone here is to run short distances quickly, follow the sprinter workout.

Ill tell you right now, boxers, MMA fighters, football players, basketball players.... basically any athlete besides a sprinter, doesnt do a sprinter workout.

Welkabonz

personally i dont think there is a big difference between bodybuilding and powerlifting.... just if you are short and fat with tiny arms you are a powerlifter... if you are tall and jacked you are a bodybuilder. But regardless.... no Mr olympia has even sprinted to the best of my knowledge.

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

99% of smokers are more respectful than people could imagine, its the non smokers that are indignant and intolerant d-bags.

Smokers try to keep to themselves, similiar to someone listening to their ipod with earbuds, but these narcissistic self-righteous a-holes always comes up and say crap like "you know thats bad for your health" or pretend to cough... and you just want to crush their skull.... so badly. But unlike them us smokers are actually decent people so we freaking apologize and try to move away from these d-bags.

scouttrooperbob

Do people really do that? Like you can emediatly quit smoking. I Dont smoke but I have some family members who use tobaco products and they know they are bad. Many of them have tryed to stop but have failed, But they defenantly try to limit expsosure to people by smoking out side or away from people ETC...

Of course they really do that. And even when vaporizers for tobacco come out like e-cigarettes the natural reaction of anti tobacco lobbyists and anti smoking bigots in general is "we have to make this illegal"

A device that makes quitting smoking easier needs to be made illegal... because it resembles smoking. Anti smokers are the dumbest, most intolerant people on the planet... and they are rude as hell. If im trying to have a smoke away from people, they will walk up to me and make asanine comments from their moral highground when i just want to be left alone.

Im telling you its maddening.

"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half" - Jay Gould

So we should totally get rid of unions and collective bargaining.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] I agree with the lag part 100%. I just don't know how far back the rubberband will bounce is all. How willing are companies going to be to bring back all the people they let go if they can get by on what they have. Also, I hate the unemployment number anyways (the way it is calculated) for reasons people have already gone into ITT (especially people 'looking' for a job versus those that just said 'F*** it' and gave up so it goes down...now they are looking again and it goes back up WTFCycleOfViolence

That's a big issue right there. Some companies have been able to turn a profit with a smaller work force.

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] The middle cIass exists today because of unions. If it weren't for unions, wages would be on the same level as Chinese sweat-shops--and I know this because that's how it actually was, here, in the United States, before unions were formed. Corporations haven't been creating jobs lately. In fact, they've been widening the gap between the upper and lower cIasses--the middle cIass is shrinking. Theokhoth

Don't really understand how your first point pertains to what I posted. But, China's GDP growth rate is excellent at the moment as well. So, I don't understand how this is a problem. If people are willing to work doing unskilled labor they should be allowed to and not have their job sent oversees because of a union require higher wages.

Corporations have been creating jobs. I don't see how the second point applies to my post.

well thats the problem in a free market model... if we just eliminated the minimum wage, child labor laws, and worker safety laws in general... we could compete with china and take our manufacturing industry back! :D

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="Mafiree"]I don't understand how you can blame one party for this mess. If it is Republicans fault you have to overlook the fact that democrats controlled congress from 01/2007-01/2011 Both parties need to stop trying to play god with the economy.YellowOneKinobi

both parties are captive to their campaign funds... but demo top contibutors are unions, which represent actual working people.

republican top contributors are corporations and individually wealthy citizens with interests that DO NOT help working people.

How many people do you suppose have jobs because of those big, evil corporations?

What are these tremendous drains? if their benefits are better it increases everyone's benefit.

And how many people do i suppose have jobs because of those big evil corporations? You mean the american corporations that defer and dodge taxes... then invest most of their money in foreign economies instead of the US economy because they could care less about our country? I dunno alot. Its basically like asking how many jobs Henry the V created because he had total control of the country. No crap you can create jobs when you rule the world.

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

you got me, sprinters do alot of tire drills as part of their normal workout, i forgot about that.

rawsavon

high intensity cardio is first and foremost stupid. SoBaus

So it looks like I have indeed proven your assertion to be incorrect.
Also, sprinters do lots of resistance work. just b/c they do not use tires does mean that they do not do other things.
You made an assertion that was not correct and has been proven as such. I do not know why you are trying to say that athletes don't do interval training consisting of short, high intensity bursts :?

athletes do, but only applicable to their sport. Boxers and MMA fighters dont do sprints... if they are doing high intensity cardio... its on a heavy bag. Sprinters dont train on heavy bags.

training does not cross over.

Any bodybuilder that build muscle, and powerlifters that build strength... DO NOT do sprinter workouts.

I don't understand how you can blame one party for this mess. If it is Republicans fault you have to overlook the fact that democrats controlled congress from 01/2007-01/2011 Both parties need to stop trying to play god with the economy.Mafiree

both parties are captive to their campaign funds... but demo top contibutors are unions, which represent actual working people.

republican top contributors are corporations and individually wealthy citizens with interests that DO NOT help working people.

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="austi722"]

Cmon people,places like Ultra,mwalmart are always hiring!Also some people want to be on unemployment.My sister has been trying to get fired to get on it,so that proves some people are lazy.

YellowOneKinobi

agreed when mcdonalds went on a hiring spree they only rejected 93% of applicants! Just goes to show if you work hard and are top 7% you might get a job at mcdonalds! American dream son!

That being said, I have noticed that at places like McDonalds I'm seeing more and more adults working jobs that used to be done by teenagers. People are doing whatever they can to take care of themselves and their family.....but that makes it that much tougher for people just starting out.

exactly, which is why if you have a bag of nutrient rich soil... you give it to the seedlings that need help growing... not the large plants that are well off and and are already producing fruit. Yea, i went gardening anology... i grow tomatoes, so what?