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#1 SoBaus
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[QUOTE="sonicare"] I was making a statement about things that interfere with people's ability to enjoy public settings. Loid noises, noxious smoke, etc. If you want to start a discussion about the best way to signal the start to a paintball game, we could try that in a different thread.sonicare

In a public setting a crying baby is harder to get away from than a smoker. Lets make babies illegal, amirite? A smoker is the easiest of all public nuisances to avoid.

I'm not saying to make it illegal. I'm just saying that smoking a cigarette does affect other people and strongly bothers lots of people. What society determines to be permissible and what it determines to not be permissible vary. A crying baby certainly can be annoying. So can loud automobiles, motorcycles, etc. But people value the convenience of those things more than the downside. However, there are some laws that curb even those activities. Some states have laws against using your car horn. Some states have certain public ordiances that prevent people from blasting loud music in public. Yet no one is saying "make music illegal". They're just saying to be respectful of those around you. When you smoke, you're not just affecting yourself.

99% of smokers are more respectful than people could imagine, its the non smokers that are indignant and intolerant d-bags.

Smokers try to keep to themselves, similiar to someone listening to their ipod with earbuds, but these narcissistic self-righteous a-holes always comes up and say crap like "you know thats bad for your health" or pretend to cough... and you just want to crush their skull.... so badly. But unlike them us smokers are actually decent people so we freaking apologize and try to move away from these d-bags.

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#2 SoBaus
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[QUOTE="SoBaus"]Sprinting workouts are only good for sprinting... no other athlete does them.

rawsavon

Wow. That's really weird. I could have sworn football players did tons of work involving short, high intensity bursts...agility drills, running, running with resistance bands, sled work, tires, etc

I do wish there was someway to prove what I was saying though...oh...wait...there is

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=football+sprint+workouts&aq=0&oq=FOOTBALL+SPRINT+
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=football+sled+drills&aq=1&oq=football+sled
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=football+tire+drills&aq=f
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=football+resistance+bands+drills&aq=f

you got me, sprinters do alot of tire drills as part of their normal workout, i forgot about that.

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#3 SoBaus
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Cmon people,places like Ultra,mwalmart are always hiring!Also some people want to be on unemployment.My sister has been trying to get fired to get on it,so that proves some people are lazy.

austi722

agreed when mcdonalds went on a hiring spree they only rejected 93% of applicants! Just goes to show if you work hard and are top 7% you might get a job at mcdonalds! American dream son!

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#4 SoBaus
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] I like what Mafiree said. (Paraphrase) As Obama has said about his Stimulus, "It would have been worse" without the tax cut extensions.

YellowOneKinobi

sounds like a dumb argument for both cases... :wink:

Agreed.

also agreed, everyone knows you spend with tax cuts for the rich when you arent in a recession, then pinch pennies when the economy takes a nose dive... with a historical boom and bust cycle why would anyone save during the prosperous times? Would have to be mental.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"] Actually, 5 feet does not remove you from the effects of cigarette smoke. My comparison is equitable. Loud noise is considered a noxious stimulus. So is cigarette smoke. Both are irritants. Stabbing someone with a knife is not an equivalent position. You're the one making the bizarre comparisons, not me. Sorry.sonicare

i was merely escalating your escalation. Back when i played paintball, we used airhorns to signal the start of the game.... lighting a cigarette would not have worked.

But you think it would.... because you are unbiased an reasonable.

I was making a statement about things that interfere with people's ability to enjoy public settings. Loid noises, noxious smoke, etc. If you want to start a discussion about the best way to signal the start to a paintball game, we could try that in a different thread.

In a public setting a crying baby is harder to get away from than a smoker. Lets make babies illegal, amirite? A smoker is the easiest of all public nuisances to avoid.

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#6 SoBaus
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bodybuilders - best at building muscle mass

powerlifters = best at building strength

sprinters = best at quickly running short distances

by all means if the workout goals of everyone here is to run short distances quickly, follow the sprinter workout.

Ill tell you right now, boxers, MMA fighters, football players, basketball players.... basically any athlete besides a sprinter, doesnt do a sprinter workout.

Jolt_counter119

lol thats so wrong. Boxers, MMA fighters and especially football and basketball players do a lot of sprints. Its a very important workout. Yes boxers and MMA fighters have to do a lot of long distance running to to keep cardio, but sprints are better for keeping and building muscle, especially for building monster calves.

You are right boxers and MMA fighters do long distance running for cardio... but they dont do sprints, ever.

Sprinting workouts are only good for sprinting... no other athlete does them.

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[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Really? Wow. I think sprinters across the globe would disagree with you, but what do they know :roll: Interval Training has proven to be very effective at promoting fat loss and maintaining muscle massJolt_counter119

agreed sprinters know how to build muscle and strength, thats why professional bodybuilders and professional powerlifters... always consult sprinters for their workout.

There's a reason why long distance runners are usually skinny muscle less twigs and sprinters are ripped. Long cardio workouts with a slower pace causes muscle loss, but high intensity cardio strengthens without losing muscle. And im pretty sure not many people here are trying to be professional powerlifters so I dont know what you're talking about there.

bodybuilders - best at building muscle mass

powerlifters = best at building strength

sprinters = best at quickly running short distances

by all means if the workout goals of everyone here is to run short distances quickly, follow the sprinter workout.

Ill tell you right now, boxers, MMA fighters, football players, basketball players.... basically any athlete besides a sprinter, doesnt do a sprinter workout.

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#9 SoBaus
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I guess it comes down to one person's right to smoke in public and othe people's right to not be subjected to cigarette smoke. There are some public ordinances against creating disturbances. I can't take an air horn and blast it at every person I see in public. That ordinace infringes on my right to use air horns as I see fit, but you can see why it exists. The trouble is that we don't live in a vacuum. I'm sure you can make a convincing argument for either side based on rights, but I just tend to land on the side of the nonsmokers. I guess it's because I don't smoke and don't like to be around it. I'm sure if I was a smoker than I'd feel that my freedom to smoke is more important than someone else's freedom to not have smoke in their face.

sonicare

exactly and saying i cant go around stabbing people in the face with a knife is infringing on my right to stab people in the face with a knife. Good logical and equitable positions happening here. Oh my! this slope is slippery.

EDIT: you can move 5 feet and completely avoid a smoker, can you move 5 feet and completely avoid an air horn? Does this seem like a good comparison?

Actually, 5 feet does not remove you from the effects of cigarette smoke. My comparison is equitable. Loud noise is considered a noxious stimulus. So is cigarette smoke. Both are irritants. Stabbing someone with a knife is not an equivalent position. You're the one making the bizarre comparisons, not me. Sorry.

i was merely escalating your escalation. Back when i played paintball, we used airhorns to signal the start of the game.... lighting a cigarette would not have worked.

But you think it would.... because you are unbiased an reasonable.

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[QUOTE="SoBaus"]high intensity cardio is first and foremost stupid. rawsavon
Really? Wow. I think sprinters across the globe would disagree with you, but what do they know :roll: Interval Training has proven to be very effective at promoting fat loss and maintaining muscle mass

agreed sprinters know how to build muscle and strength, thats why professional bodybuilders and professional powerlifters... always consult sprinters for their workout.

Boxers, MMA fighters... basically every professional athlete consults sprinters to make sure they are working out correctly.