@Renegade_Fury: Fair enough, I love SOTN and if what you say is true I'm willing to give it a try....

But not at $40, that's too expensive for a game I'm on the fence about lol

It's stuff like this that turned me off from PC gaming

PC Gamer: "Oh here's a hidden gem you should play"

Me: "Awesome I'll check it out"

PC Gamer: "But it's buggy and plays like crap if you just download and play, download these mods and follow these instructions for a better experience."

Me: "Ok..." downloads all the shit and follows instructions. "Ummm I did all the things but now my game crashes a lot"

PC Gamer: "Oh you need to do these extra steps to fix that one issue, update drivers, uninstall your OS and reinstall....:

Me: Turns PC off and plays PS4.

Look I know I'm being dramatic and I get some people enjoy stuff like trouble shooting and getting the most out of a game, but damn it my time is precious and I'm not going to spend hours trying to fix a damn game.

@Renegade_Fury: If 2.5D gives off a slow illusion shouldn't they compensate with more movement speed?

IDK I think Dead Cells has spoiled me for Metroidvanias

I might give it a try then during a sale.......

But yes....it needed to be sprites, feel the 3D art style choice was a financial choice.

Im glad I'm not the only one that is noticing that DMC5 has problems...

1. DMC5 - bad level design, new characters are not interesting/or fun to play as...V in particular, lack of puzzles. The core gameplay is solid I give it that.

2. Fist of the North Star - I agree with TC's griefs, the combat is good but everything else feels lacking compared to Yakuza

3. Fallout 76 - Do I need to say anything?

4. Fallout 4 - I hate base building!!! I just want to shoot and explore! But if I don't base build I feel like I could ruin the story I want

5. Zelda BOTW - I hate climbing, I hate climbing, I hate climbing, I'm not a zelda fan nor have I played any other zelda games. Take that as you will

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I've got more

6. MGSV - Base management....recruiting.....I can't stand this and it affects the ending

7. Order 1886 - short, shallow, boring

8. - Persona 5 - Good god this game had a 10 plus hour tutorial!!!! I played 12 hours and couldn't play any more.

Now I understand why people like some of these games, there are some great games on the list but they weren't for me.

I'd love for Kratos to get into smash some how some way.

I haven't played the game but from everything I have seen the game looks slow, clunky, and boring. Plus the art style is pitiful! Even after the redesign they did after fan feedback.

Why was this not made with 2D style graphics in the realm of Super Nintendo/Genesis?

I'm not reading all of that, and what I did read I feel is bull......HOWEVER

I feel like the zelda series gets a pass on quality.

Twilight Princess and Skyward sword are very AVERAGE games and all the 8 plus scores these games got were just because they were Zelda games. If you take the Zelda name and characters from these games and replace them at best these games would get 7's.

I already feel overwhelmed with choice now with just a ps4, from the PSN store to physical releases.

I don't want gaming to feel like netflix, where I spend just as much time looking for games to play vs playing them.

This pretty much is what I would say, maybe add PSVR for Sony