[QUOTE="TheEngima683"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] Not really, you keep saying it's a bad game, them things don't make it a bad game.soulitane

[QUOTE="TheEngima683"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] I never said any game I said the game (in reference to Reach), since your original argument was about Reach, so please try again but this time about reach.soulitane

[QUOTE="TheEngima683"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] Please tell me which parts of the game are legitimately bad and there is no way that anyone could think they're good.soulitane

[QUOTE="TheEngima683"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

Add Soul Calibur 4, Tekken 6, Ninja Gaiden 2, Metal Gear Solid 4 (story and character wise), Silent Hill Homecoming to the list.

finalfantasy94

Heres the thing though. Its your opinion. To me MGS4 is the second best MGS. Just cause you thought a certain game was a disapointment doesint mean they should drop it just for you. I found RE5 a disapointment. It just didint feel like a RE game. Thoug it was fun. Im not praying for the devs to drop the RE francise since I still like the series. RE5 disapointed me but whos to say the next will.

[QUOTE="TheEngima683"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] I see what you mean but it's subjective as to whether or not them things are bad, so that's where opinion comes into it.soulitane

[QUOTE="TheEngima683"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

FC2- I shot this game with an AK. Nothing else needs to be said

Mercenaries 2- EA turned this into Airstrikes: The Game. Lucasart's trademark charm was sorely needed.

GTA4- "Hey guys, let's take out all the things that made the prior GTAs fun, like over the top zaniness and rampages, and replace them with dark storylines and repetitive point A to point B drive sequences!"

Conviction- It's Splinter Cell....without the stealth. Or the tactics. Or the mission structure we came to know and love last generation. Or the awesome multiplayer.

Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway- What NOT to do with a franchise that centers around squad-based fireteams and tactics; turn it into a drama game chock-full of solo missions, arcade tank segments, and throw in cursed 1911 pistols and ghosts. Oh, and make things so laughably surreal that Apocalypse Now would balk.

Verge_6

/sarcasm

[QUOTE="TheEngima683"]

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

I'm not going to go into great detail, but I'll name a few :)

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - I just thought it was awful. End of story :P One of the worst games I've ever played.

Halo Reach - I played the beta (I know I know), and just got bored of it very quickly, and this is coming from someone with over 2,000 games in Halo 3 multiplayer :shock:

God of War 3 - I never played the first two games, but I must say I was incredibly disappointed by this game :P It goes up there with CoD4 for me.

MobilechicaneX

Yes because Campaign, forge, custom games, firefight,re-balancing, new maps, arena, extended armoury,a bunch of community made maps in matchmaking and a whole ton of other stuffmade it worse. :roll:

FC2- I shot this game with an AK. Nothing else needs to be said

Mercenaries 2- EA turned this into Airstrikes: The Game. Lucasart's trademark charm was sorely needed.

GTA4- "Hey guys, let's take out all the things that made the prior GTAs fun, like over the top zaniness and rampages, and replace them with dark storylines and repetitive point A to point B drive sequences!"

Conviction- It's Splinter Cell....without the stealth. Or the tactics. Or the mission structure we came to know and love last generation. Or the awesome multiplayer.

Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway- What NOT to do with a franchise that centers around squad-based fireteams and tactics; turn it into a drama game chock-full of solo missions, arcade tank segments, and throw in cursed 1911 pistols and ghosts. Oh, and make things so laughably surreal that Apocalypse Now would balk.

Verge_6

/sarcasm

[QUOTE="TheEngima683"]

To respond to workknow222 post:

I could care less if Bungie took liberties with the canonical backstory, all I care for is for is decent writing. The storytelling in Reach was downright poor. Prior Halo games never had remarkable storytelling, but they contain the depth of a Earnest Hemingway novel compared to Reach. Even ODST had better character developtment than Reach, and that was just a 5 hour expansion pack.

worknow222

Also, Bungie intended to humanize Spartans in Reach. But their wasted their effort into making cardboard cut-outs. The Spartans in the book were much more humanized. First off, there's nothing special about Jorge. He's just another big-guy-with-the-heart-of-gold stereo-type. Noble Team consisted of nothing more of stock, dull, and generic archetypes. It's obviously Bungie spent more time thinking about how each would die, then actually exploring their personalities.