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#1 The_Streets
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First of all, I never knew Forza Motorsport even had a storyline :|
Second of all, you're a joke. Yes, those games have awesome gameplay, and so do nintendo games. but by your logic, Nintendo games are worse because of t3h kiddy!!!111 :o

Jesus christ, if you need to increase your pre-teen masculinity that bad than be my guest, I'll be playing games like Twilight Princess that you'll be missing out on because you're running around capping hookers.

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Em, I'm 21. And what's this about capping hookers? If you're referring to gTA, I actually hate those games because they have no story. They're more sandpit games, do what you like. Very little story, very little structure, very little characterisation. So that blows your post right out of the water
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#2 The_Streets
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I'm actually an Xbox fan btw, but credit where credits due
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There's nothing better than coming home from the game store with a really powerful game in your hands. Knowing that Halo 2 is about to take you on an intergalactic journey of aliens, warfare and survival. Max Payne's grim story of revenge and its corruptive powers. Final Fantasy's epic tales of kingdoms, science and confrontation. It is these products of the PlayStation era of gaming that have spawned a worldwide market of 100+ million gamers, not the likes of Super Mario Bros or The Legend Of Zelda: A link To The Past. People often credit Nintendo with the popularity of games today. i say that it was Sony that took the ball and ran with it. They brought interactive movies to gaming, with the likes of Resident Evil, Tomb raider and Metal gear Solid and I'm afraid that Nintendo's games just don't cut it anymore
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Anyone else agree?
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Those are good games you've mentioned The_Streets but I've played through some the more "movie-like" games and after completing them the spark that brought those games to life is extinguished. Once I got through the story on those games that was it.... there was no real reason to play them again. This is why I hold game play (spelled correctly this time :P) in a much higher regard than a good story or a mature theme because gameplay is something that never wears out over time.

I write "IMHO" after this statement although I think it highly unnessary. It's obviously my opinion and no one, fanboy or otherwise, can change it.

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Fair enough and I too disagree with you. Using the games that i mentioned, Halo is a series reknowned for its AI. I don't care how many times you play a Halo level, you will never fight the Covenant the same way twice. That for me is a positive gameplay attribute. Similarly, Knights allows you to play both Light and Dark, meaning replay value. Again, these games have great gameplay mechanics, as I've mentioned above. What seperates them from the garbage that Ninty put out though? Their stories and mature themes
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#6 The_Streets
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Can i just say one more thing please? Nintendo defenders often say "cute graphics don't automaticaly equal kiddy". I agree. i love the Toy Story films. Which is just the point. Maybe if Nintendo aspired to the level of Toy Story, games like mario might actually start being interesting. Why not give a Mario game a PLOT. With characters. and levels that have specific relevance to the story. And that are completed in a specific order. If nintendo made a toy story style Mario game, it would be SO much more appealing to people like me. After all, they gave Zelda: Oot an epic plot and look how it turned out. Zelda isn't gorey. It's like an old English fairytale. But its story of knights and magic and artifcats and evil and heroes and quaint towns is just so CAPTIVATING. It's one of the most beautiful games that I have ever played. Make more games like this and nintendo will appeal to people like me. I dont like collecting power Stars just, just 'because'. It's the 'rules' of the 'game'. It's how you win. Give me more than just a game. Give me an interactive Pixar movie with the next Mario and then we'll see how popular it turns out to be.....
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#7 The_Streets
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I despair at the idiocy on these boards sometimes..... When I mentioned Forza Motorsport, I'm not referring to its storyline or to its ESRB rating. Why I referenced it is because it is a realistic simulation game, with accurate physics, true-to-life car models and so on so forth. The point is, Nintendo do not make games like this. When Nintendo make racing games, it's always Mario Kart. Always. or Diddy Kong Racing. Or some other rubbish like this. where are all the deep racers? this is exactly my point. Someone made a great point. What makes games like Halo 2, God Of War and Star Wars: Knights Of The Republic isn't that they have gore (Knights is gorey???). It's their soundtrack, art direction, story, characters. The are more than just 'games'. They are as involving as movies. They stir the soul. They immerse you in a world and tell you a story. But, they are ALSO very good GAMES alongside their narrative components. Nintendo games may have good gameplay. I never said otherwise. But Mario, Zelda (Ocarina Of Time apart), Donkey Kong, Luigi, Kirby and Pikachu don't make me sit in front of my telly in wonder. they don't immerse me in a story or challenge my perceptions of life in any way. If anything, they are dumb stories (oh look, Mario has to save Peach. Again). Are they good games? Yes. Are they immersive games? No. Think of it this way. everyone can't wait for Halo 3 because they want to see what happens next in the saga. People want to play Super Mario 128 just so they can collect some more Power Stars. THAT'S the difference. Case closed
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#8 The_Streets
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[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]Sheep:

Nintendo makes great games. They are not the only company that makes great games. Deal with it.

Exactly. Why can't Nintendo fans accept this point? What makes the Xbox and the PlayStation 2 superior is that I can find games on them that are as good as Mario or Zelda, but that ALSO have deeper stories, characterisation and Hollywood-style production values that satisfy me also. Give me plenty of Halo 2 style sci fi epics and Oriental martial arts sagas like Jade Empire on the revolution and I MIGHT consider it.....
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I hate Nintendo games because they're too cutesy and I don't want to play cute and cuddly games. Say this to a Nintendo fan, however and he'll scream at you to grow up and that you should focus on the gameplay. I hate this whole Nintendo and gameplay myth. Does Halo not have good gameplay? Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory? Star Wars: Knights of the old Republic? Forza Motorsport? Ninja Gaiden? Do you know what the big difference is? As well as having outstanding gameplay mechanics, these games ALSO have mature storylines, worlds and characters. What's wrong with having both? I'm sick of Nintendo fans slagging Xbox and PlayStation 2 fans and saying that we only care about image and not gameplay. I want games that play well yes, but also ones that have mature and engaging storylines. The problem with nintendo games is that they give you ONE thing - gameplay. But they're too cutesy. If you buy an Xbox or a PlayStation 2, you can have BOTH. Gameplay AND mature stories. Case closed. There's no way that Nintendo fans can argue this point.....