[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="magicalclick"]Just so you know, Obama is democrates. magicalclick

I always wondered where these voices were from 2000-2008.

BTW, a lot of poeple would want to blame Repblicans as richs are affected the least. Just so you know, Obama is democrates. And congress was dominated by democrates until the previous elections. Democrates still runs the goverment, at least Obama is still democrates right now.

magicalclick

Um...what is your point? The Democrats don't just "run" the government by themselves.

Strong Business? Really? When literal armies of corporate lobbyists are fighting to eliminate minimum wage, safety regulations, affirmative action, the ability to unionize, and eventhe rights to bargain collectively I hardly think big businesses are looking out for the minorities.

Twenty-to-One Pew Research Center

Yet conservatives croon and caw about things like Affirmative Action even though the wealth of minorities is most vulnerable.

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And it doesn't address the most glaring factor into rising health care costs. People going into the ER w/o health insurance and thus causing my premiums to go up. Ryan's plan is just the GOP ideology on paper.

airshocker

Then perhaps it's a problem with the law requiring that hospitals treat those who come into the ER.

That's inhuman and frankly stupid. If you were in a an accident and they couldn't find your IDs or insurance card I hope you'd be satisfied in your conservative wonderland.

Why get a media player? Get a Windows phone. I've got an HD7 and I likeWP7 better than anything else.

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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"] OK, just checking in on you. I kind of envisioned the vein on your forehead getting ready to blow for a minute or two :PCataclism

Haha. No vein, but Cataclism demanding that I just believewhatever he says was in need of rebuttal. I think we are spotlighting certain cases anyway, and without looking a broader studies we are mostly pissing in the wind.

Because risk for cancer and skin conditions have nothing to do with socio-economics. All of this has been proven.

I'm sorry but it doesn't matter if you don't disagree. There's simply nothing to disagree upon. What you're doing is like arguing that the sky isn't blue.

Just ask any doctor.

It's very interesting however that you assume balcks and hispanics have a worse socio-economic status...

...It is one thing to just believe things without researching them. Clearly this is all you do. However genius there are statistics all over the place that certify what I claim is TRUE.It is not an assumption it is true.Not that it matters to my argument, but I myself am Black. You are hinting at me being racist when you haven't even looked up the information. How can you expect anyone to believe your other arguments when you have these thinly veiled personal attacksand ridiculous claims. But yeah, I'm done talking to you, you have nothing of value to add to the argument.,

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But it was the GOP platform that brought unemployment to 8% in the first place.

Right now their policy is to stop progressive legislation, stop change, and keep doing the same thing we've always been doing. My question to you is, if what we;ve been doing before created problem, how can it also be the solution?

Blue-Sky

He's had almost three years to bring unemployment down. That hasn't happened. That makes it his mess. You can't use "It was Bush's fault!" for the entire first-term.

In my eyes progressive legislation is the problem in this country. Also, I voted to put a restraining order on Obama. That was my goal in the 2010 election.

You make no sense. You're voting with ideal of restraining Obama while simultaneously complaining about his effectiveness. That makes you the problem. Do you not see the vicious cycle?

The best thing we can do for the presidency is vote more of his party into congress. If you don't want want to vote more Dems in, then you need to be honest. It's not Obama thats your issue, it's the entire Democratic platform.

Thank you. Conservatives go on complaining about Obama doing "too" much but in the next breath he isn't doing anything to help those poor "job-creators" who just raked in their biggest check ever.

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]He's not doing exactly what I'd like him to be doing, but he's certainly doing better than any GOP platform I've heard proposed recently.airshocker

The GOP hasn't suggested policy that makes business crap itself(cap and trade, forms for sales over a certain amount, etc). Our unemployment is at 9%. The GOP has nothing to do with that.

I suppose it's subjective, depending on what your priorities are, but he's not doing so well in my book.

Um... Cap and Trade was originally a Republican idea, much like alot of the other stuff they have come to malign over the years of Obama's presidency. GOP has a GREAT DEAL to do with our deficit and unemployment because of Bush 43's irresponsible economic policies and unbudgeted warmaking (not saying that we should have gone to Afghanistan, but that and the adventure he had in Iraq never got a second thought when it came to the budget).

Not only that, but Republican's Default brinksmanship has caught the ire of those on Wall Street because of the turmoil it would cause on the world market.

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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"] Ultimas, take a step back for a second. This has nothing to do with racism or general health.

Read the page I linked on cystic fibrosis - it not only lays out rates of occurrence, but the genetic cause of the disorder:

CF is caused by a mutation in the gene for the protein cystic fibrosis transmembrane conductance regulator (CFTR). This gene is required to regulate the components of sweat, digestive juices, and mucus. Although most people without CF have two working copies of the CFTR gene, only one is needed to prevent cystic fibrosis. CF develops when neither gene works normally and therefore has autosomal recessive inheritance.

CF is most common among Caucasians; one in 25 people of European descent carry one allele for CF.

mattbbpl

Yes yes I understand what you are saying matt but I had already said previously Agree to Disagree because there were many situations in which either side could cite certain diseases and say they were right. I believe the CF argument is credible but not the whole argument. As I said earlier, agree to disagree.

Haha. No vein, but Cataclism demanding that I just believewhatever he says was in need of rebuttal. I think we are spotlighting certain cases anyway, and without looking a broader studies we are mostly pissing in the wind.