For me I would take the 40% pay cut because I was taught to live within my means. If you are spending over half of your earnings on the basics to survive... you should rethink your strategy! :)

Sandpiper121PP

Pfft. You've never worked at 150% of minimum wage (~$11/hr=$1760 gross/mo) renting your own apartment ($450+), maintaining a vehicle ($400; gas+insurance+etc), buying food ($200), communications ($150; cellphone+internet+cable). And that's just for a single guy (girl?) striking out on his own.

And what about the student who just graduated and can only find this crappy ~$11/hr job? Add in any credit card payments that were necessary to get through school($35+/mo)and don't forget about the all important STUDENT LOANS you have to repay ($250+/mo on average).

Honestly your method isn't feasible for the real world where people work and can't/don't live off of mom and dad's inheritance.

A) Do I like this job?

B) Do I like the people I work with?

C) Am I valued at this job?

Too many considerations...

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]I could actually see that. Republicans will be less out to make him look bad at that point (provided he gets a second term) because it's fairly easy to assume the American people won't tolerate one party in control of the presidency for more than 8 years. Thus republicans might actually let some bills through. Infrastructure would really help manufacturing. I would like to see some more internet related bills happen also (net neutrality and all that).airshocker

Nothing short of a drastic cut in corporate taxes will help manufacturing. It's too damn expensive to produce in this country. Infrastructure won't solve that.

Dead horse beaten. Have we not learned anything GW Bush's policiesthat tax cuts don't create jobs (see any history book on 2001-present)? Only some well placed protectionist tarriffs, a higher minimum wage, andhigher taxes on the upper 2% (don't even have to go lower that they it's where all the money has trickled to...) would help stabalize out economy and put us on track.

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Clinton didn't do much for LBGT like Obama has, and I believe he has been governing from the right of center. I'm just hoping he will show some Progressive marks in his second term, which is why I believe he has been governing as such in the first place: to get reelected and do more in his second tern.

His second term will be all about Immigration and infrastructure, which will be about all he'll get through because everyone will be starved for jobs and those two bills could do a lot for jobs.

Serraph105

I wonder what the Administration is thinking on that myself, especially now that they've put a crosshair on Google. I personally think that the Powers that Be don't like Google crusading against the Chinese Government like they were doing. I know, I know *conspiracy* but still, multi-nationals corporations can't start explicitly acting like nations with interests without sparking the ire of some official somewhere.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]What? They've been saying Aug 2 for a long time. I'm not even from the States and i know that.airshocker

Before that it was May 31st, before that another date, before that another.

You know good and well that creative accounting has its limits. The government can't do that hat trick too many times.

Obama's been governing as a moderate republican throughout his presidency. He passed a very conservative stimulus that was well below the dollar amount that his advisers told him the stimulus should be, and a considerable amount of the stimulus was tax cuts. The health care law was pretty much completely ripped off from the heritage foundation. He's fully adopted GOP rhetoric on the deficit (a day almost never goes by without his administration invoking the faulty "household" analogy in reference to the deficit). And for the past month or so he's been pushing for a debt reduction bill that is very heavily weighted towards spending cuts, and has been more than willing to make substantial cuts to medicare and social security.

I don't know where people get this idea that Obama is some extreme radical on the far left.

I'm an extreme radical on the far left. Obama ain't nothing like me. As far as I'm concerned, he's just Clinton 2.0, bringing triangulation to the 21st century.

-Sun_Tzu-

Clinton didn't do much for LBGT like Obama has, and I believe he has been governing from the right of center. I'm just hoping he will show some Progressive marks in his second term, which is why I believe he has been governing as such in the first place: to get reelected and do more in his second tern.

His second term will be all about Immigration and infrastructure, which will be about all he'll get through because everyone will be starved for jobs and those two bills could do a lot for jobs.

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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]Yeah, its plain as day. And I think airshocker has to agree that republicans cant have it all their way, and if they were serious they would also look at the revenue side of things. This is what rational people are saying.wolverine4262

When Republicans ran on certain things, like no new taxes, they can definitely have their way...to a point.

Completely true, they had the Democrats by the ****s for some like $4,000,000,000,000 in cuts and they said NO just because tax loopholes would be closed.

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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

What are you talking about? He was calling Obama a Blue Dog/Centrist Democrat, or at least that's what I thought.

Hell I don't care if you like the Democrats. There are former Republicans I like but have trouble agreeing with. This current bunch is too ideologically driven for me to like much of any of them.

Ace6301

No, he was using that picture to laugh at me. :P

Not that I feel betrayed or whatever a person could call it, but many of Obama's actions as President are worthy of Blue Dog/Centrist credthat appeals to the Center. And I guess I'mspeaking more about his fiscal policy than his social policy (which has been liberal IMO).

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better yet lets act like we know better than everybody else, but don't actually state why they are wrong thus allowing ourselves to look smart without actually proving it.

QuistisTrepe_

Where did I claim to know better than everyone else? The OP made the claim that John Boehner is the "worst speaker of all the recent ones" which I'm guessing they went all the way back to Nancy Pelosi to draw that conclusion, so we're left to assume that they researched the terms of all the "recent" Speakers. I'll bet the OP couldn't even name one beyond the Bush years.

Wow, why aren't you providing a rebuttal instead of propping up straw men? You have no credible argument and really are just talking to hear yourself.

And what if I couldn't name Gingrich or Foley? Would it make my statement less true? I don't think so.

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God that makes my heart hurt because it's so damn true :cry:

airshocker

Why is it so hard for you to believe I can actually like a Democrat?

I like Andrew Cuomo, by the way. When he isn't pandering about with gay rights and closing down Indian Point.

What are you talking about? He was calling Obama a Blue Dog/Centrist Democrat, or at least that's what I thought.

Hell I don't care if you like the Democrats. There are former Republicans I like but have trouble agreeing with. This current bunch is too ideologically driven for me to like much of any of them.