[QUOTE="Vectoin"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"][QUOTE="Grive"]

a technicality as much as you wish. The concept behind this strategy (if true) is pretty much the same thing as the concept behind the bait-and-switch strategy, only adjusted in order to make it legal.

NavigatorsGhost

They are introducing a new product. They can't meet demand. Thats it. It just so happens they also sell a very similar product which has the same function but also extra features.

This is not a 1 time availability item. Its not like if you can't find it next week, it will be gone forever.

And again, Sony is going out of their way to tell retailers not to advertise for the product in an attempt to avoid problems.

Do you honostly think that any cow is going to admit that their beloved company would stoop to such a low level? Sony can meet the demand for the PS3Lite, but they would rather purposely keep it's supply low to dupe people into buying the more expensive model. How is this not bait and switch? DXGreat1_HGL

Lol, another fanboy using an economics term which he does not fully understand. Heard it used in Econ 101 in high school and thinks he knows how to apply it to the real world.

If you actually read the posts in the thread instead of just the topic title and the TC's post, you might be able to understand that the answer of why its not a bait and switch was already given. And this thread should be closed because again it goes back to the TC reading half a news article (if that much), incorrectly interpreting it and attempting to bash Sony based off that.

Mmm, I love the fact you debase peoples argument by a person's economical rationality, and, in short, fail to validate your own arguments. You're arrogance is placed on ignorance!

Why wouldn't I debase their argument on this? They are trying to discuss an economic idea/principle and they really don't know what it is and are using it incorrectly. So their whole argument fails. Duh?

I already proved and validated my argument, with links. FACT: What they are doing is not "bait and switch". See previous post as to why.

People talk out of their ass all the time on this forum, and when they get called on it, they have nothing to say. The TC was trying to discuss something of which he has no understanding. He was proved wrong and tried to backtrack by saying he was using the term "bait and switch" loosely.

The fact remains, that he made this thread in an attempt to single out Sony for doing something wrong. Whether or not you agree with the legality of what Sony is doing (and it is legal) is irrelevant because MS does this as well.

And please quote the part in the article where the Sony employee says "we are purposely limiting the 40gig model in an obviously attempt at the classic bait and switch, so we can screw over consumers"

Wow, there's no sense in arguing with you. You clearly have a bias with Sony, and you'll defend it without consideration of the possibility. I've read your previous post and they are purely lacking in merit.

The thread was to inform the users about the likelihood of another SKU and it's availablity. It also eludes to the bait and switch, why is it hard for you to comprehend that practices are more common than you make it out to be. It's senseless to even protect a corporation of ethics or morality.

You also have no practical knowledge in economics; however you may want to spin your own webs and concocted fantasy bliss. Besides, it's not like anything anyone says opposite to your own narrow belief is going to propell you into a tizzy of blind faith. Have fun ion your fantasy world!

[QUOTE="Grive"]

a technicality as much as you wish. The concept behind this strategy (if true) is pretty much the same thing as the concept behind the bait-and-switch strategy, only adjusted in order to make it legal.

NavigatorsGhost

Uh, what? If you want to look at it that way, then the entire business world operates on technicalities. :lol:

They are introducing a new product. They can't meet demand. Thats it. It just so happens they also sell a very similar product which has the same function but also extra features.

This is not a 1 time availability item. Its not like if you can't find it next week, it will be gone forever.

And again, Sony is going out of their way to tell retailers not to advertise for the product in an attempt to avoid problems.

Do you honostly think that any cow is going to admit that their beloved company would stoop to such a low level? Sony can meet the demand for the PS3Lite, but they would rather purposely keep it's supply low to dupe people into buying the more expensive model. How is this not bait and switch? DXGreat1_HGL

Lol, another fanboy using an economics term which he does not fully understand. Heard it used in Econ 101 in high school and thinks he knows how to apply it to the real world.

If you actually read the posts in the thread instead of just the topic title and the TC's post, you might be able to understand that the answer of why its not a bait and switch was already given. And this thread should be closed because again it goes back to the TC reading half a news article (if that much), incorrectly interpreting it and attempting to bash Sony based off that.

Mmm, I love the fact you debase peoples argument by a person's economical rationality, and, in short, fail to validate your own arguments. You're arrogance is placed on ignorance!

Bait & Switch? Lol, what they are doing is no different than any console that has more than 1 SKU. A bait and switch would be if they advertised the 40 gig and didn't actually have it and instead pushed the 60 or 80 gig on you, when you got to the store.

In fact, as it says in the article..."certain storefronts have been notified by Sony of a Nov. 16 advertising embargo for the $399 player. Such embargoes typically fall a couple of weeks following the shelf launch of new products."

Do you know what that means? SONY is telling stores not to advertise the 40 gig after the first couple weeks of its launch, because they will probably be in limited supply. Sony is doing this to avoid problems for them and the retailers. This way customers won't be expecting the 40 gig to be available, since it won't be advertised everywhere.

So...

learn to read.

learn the definition of bait and switch.

stop making fanboy threads.

FAIL.

NavigatorsGhost

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26770.html

No one can say Uncharted looks bad graphically ever again... :o

With a straight face.

XD88FDB

For a minute I thought the TC was gonna drop the release date for Duke Nukem Forever. x_boyfriend

I lol'ed when I read that. I think I heard somewhere that it would be released 2009 :D Here's hoping!

You heard me, when the last day of 2188 hits the clock that strikes twelve, the PC would have dominated the meager Ps3, the boasterous 360, and the feastering Wii. Ahh, yes, the PC has this year in the bag. Take that consoles you may have your 2008 line up in the bag, but the PC has the future! Where you can taste virtual spaghetti, where 90% of the internet is devoted to the unmentionables, and games will no longer be played with a gamepad, it'll played with your ass! What a marvelous future the PC has in store.

You see this? You see what I did here! Yeah that's the same argumement you fanboys use all the time. Choose a date with no predictable outcome and clam victory due to your lack of knowledge of other systems. Will computers stay around till then? Who knows! If system wars is reflected with the real world, we'll all be dead but sunrise!

[QUOTE="Vectoin"]

[QUOTE="hurmatps3"]After the the ps3 price dropped around the world, sales are now dramatically going up, if it get's to next year, the blue-ray fromat will win the war. Toshiba knows this, and is trying to put the hd-dvd drive into the xbox 360, which is a dumb move becasue it will cost even higher or the same as the ps3. This is a sign of desparration for microsoft since they know that devopers are praising the ps3 now, for thier blue-ray. If sony wins the format war, microsoft is in real trouble. excelR83

You know what's scary that you have to revolve around the gravitational field of your PSTriple! You sir are a doofus, I can't even comprehend your narrowsighted view of the videogame market. Oh, and, how does a company evoke emotions!? It's not human!

PS. The ingredient in Soylent Green is PEOPLE!

:lol:

Look up the word "evoke". Self-owned.

What are you high? Mybe instead of calling people out and claiming ownage you should do a little reseach before tempting the wrath of the five finger face plant! God! Oh, and grow a sense of humor, thought, I doubt you understood anybit of my post.

[QUOTE="Vectoin"]

I don't understand your purpose, but I'll throw you a bone.

/Wipes bone -JayWongs- upper thorax

-JayWong-

What are you droning about? I didn't even mention anythign resembling your thread. Hell, I don't even know why i'm replying! Where am I? Who are you? Good-bye velvet drapes!

Man, Now system wars wont be as fun since the majority of PS3 bashing was because of the price and lack of games. But now that the Price is reasonable and the Future game line up is looking strong, what is there to complain about now with the PS3.. :::Crickets Chirping::: We cant bash the price anymore because $399.99 is very reasonable and we really cant bash the games anymore since it has a good line up from here till early next year, i guess we can all just get along now!MikeCOD80

Oh yes, it's very reasonable now, yes, yes, it's like an offer you can't refuse. We're talkabout four hundred dollars here! You know whati could buy with four hundread dollars? Four hundread sharp and stabby things. I'll offer some to you only if you eat it, it has magical, mystical powers. Some say when you swallow a handful beside your console, your PS3 will cometo life.

Fineprint - I do not condone the cool feat of swallowing sharp things, but jelly beans are okay!