[QUOTE="Walincas"]

[QUOTE="Lulekani"] I'l do one better and give up RPG's all together Because theres nothing actualy wrong with Diablo 3(Its just doing what RPG's do) . I mean, haven't you noticed most RPG's would fall apart without grinding and looting to Level Up (which is a farely useless gimmick in itself).Lulekani

There are RPG's and there are H&S's, as well as action RPG's - some RPG games are dependant on story more so, than loot :)

It's a big world out there, go see some more of it, chances are you won't be disappointed! 

If you know of the existence of some proper RPG and RPG-hybrids, you think are good, then you no longer need to give up on RPG's all together - you just have to navigate through all the sh1t ;)

If you don't want to do it alone, then start your journey on www.gamebanshee.com - if it's RPG, you can find it there :) 

Shogun 2 is good yea, alltho its not really an rts but it combines some elements of that aswell.

Crusader King? Thats not even an rts as far as I know, theres no battles ur fighting its more of a managment map based game.

SupCom is sci fi, robots, lazers ..

FiRe1987

I know what you mean, CK is actually categorised as a strategy game, but there are no "tactical" battles per say. 

If that's more your thing, i've linked a pretty decent game that combines strategy and tactical gameplay, in real time and within one map - in your other thread :)

[QUOTE="Walincas"]

[QUOTE="kaealy"] Mythic could never NEVER have put in all the features and promises they made during development. Mostly to that moron that made those podcasts, can't remember his name. kaealy

Man can do many things => im looking at you "moon landing"

hehe yea I get your point, the thing is, if even the PVP content that actually went into the game, was fluid and without problems, that would have kept me gaming, while they, over the course of time added more features, the problem was - that EA rushed it, before the features in the game were fully functional. 

In most games, that's not a core problem - might be 2 of 6 end game raids that are bugged, or some quests that can get broken - then you can just move on to another quest or one of the 4 raid that actually do work - but in a PVP game, it's pretty messed up, if the PVP features are not working as intended.

check out http://www.longbowgames.com/hegemony/, as historical correct as it's probably going to get, untill the release of Hegemony Rome. 

Fun to play as well, which is a bonus in my book :) 

[QUOTE="Walincas"]

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

I don't mean to stir things up but didn't Mark Jacobs ruin DAoC? He was also responsible for Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning, which was released in late 2008, and then seeing his departure from EA in 2009.

I've read about rumors of him being a very stubborn person, and pompous attitude.

I've played both DAoC and WAR. DAoC in its golden days was fantastic. WAR, on the other hand, was lackluster in every way despite receiving decent critic ratings. Subscriptions dropped off like flies within 3 months of launch. I played WAR for 7 months, on and off, before I had enough.

I believe in second chances when I see fit, but we could use a DAoC "successor." Let's hope Mark has learned from his mistakes. He needs better PR skills as well, because he makes Randy Pitchford look like schoolgirl.

I'm just saying, Mark Jacobs doesn't exactly have a good track record.

kaealy

The concept behind WAR online was awesome, it needed some polish and more TIME (money) from EA, to make it ready for the PVP heavy late game content - if WAR had released with all PVP features working, it would have been awesome, but EA rushed it out, and dropped the ball on WAR before it had reached it's potential.

Man can do many things => im looking at you "moon landing"

o yea, SupCom 1 is also very very very good imo :) Supcom II - not so much :/

Yea but what you mentioned was old games, ive been noticing the trend that seems to be increasing as of late, which is that they keep making alot of sci fi RTS games and less and less other games. Dawn of war 1, 2, Supreme Commander 1,2 , C&C 3, Starcraft 2, red alert 3.. And what notable rts do I remember in the past few years that isnt sci fi, probably company of heroes and thats it.

FiRe1987

Shogun 2 is pretty far from Sci-fi, and it's not only decent, but extremely awesome imo :)

Also check out Crusader king's 2, another more text based RTS games - that's also pretty farking far from Sci-fi (medieval) ;) 

[QUOTE="Rayne718"]

...PC gaming isn't safe from this downward trend either. 

-wildflower-

I'd say PC gaming has suffered more from game homogenization than consoles have.

Take a look at the mindless garbage that passes for a crpg these days (poorly written fan fiction with a smattering of elf on dwarf lovin').  But, like I said in another thread on a similar subject, with the rise of crowd-funding, I honestly couldn't care less what these "least common denominator" developers produce anymore.  

There are now alternatives to their dreck.

Yea, crowdfunding is going to bring back the complex and fun games, the masses won't play - also, even though they might be niche games - the people who like these games, probably do better in school, get better jobs and are able to fund these "complex" games as a result - so there is no need for the "masses". 

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]If u think that the games you listed are "bad" then either gaming is no longer for you or you have no idea what you are talking about...Kopogero

Rather than troll, make your argument valid and prove I have no idea what I'm talking about. Give me one good reason, convince me to play one of those titles then you can rest your case, otherwise I think are the one who has no idea what he is talking about.

Bioshock 1 I played it for 20-30 min. Bioshock 2 I skipped of course. Bioshock 3 why are you here?

The story in Bioshock infinite is pretty decent, I actually share some of your thoughts, but BI is playable if nothing else, then for the story. 

A gem you might not have noticed, is Hegemony: Wars Of Ancient Greece, give it a try if you're into RTS games and want to try something different :)

If it's RPG's check out Divinity series, most recent is in 3D with decent graphics. 

FPS, well here we do have a problem, according to your thoughts about gaming, because I agree with you, that most of it is pretty meh, what many modern FPS games do have imo though, are the story, but we also have the "new" Deus Ex, which is a bit different, as well as Dishonored (too consoleish for you probably though, as I felt that way about it), but deus ex was nice :).

[QUOTE="c_doody_1999"]

Ive been putting time in leveling up my characters and learning about gear to kit them out. in all the time iv been playing iv found maybe 2 passable legendaries and so i play for xp and gold to use on the AH.

But i was wondering, why do i do it? I love the game but it is very tedious to grind like that and at the moment their is, in my opinion, no point in having a level 160 character, i mean what on earth does the game give you to do with such a leveled up hero.

I will prob carry on grinding, in the hope that the expansion when reliesed will make everything ok, but what fetures could it bring that would make that kind of time investment worth it?

well i obviously would like an endgame, a decent goal or target in the longterm to work for, maybe a rankings ladder to see where you stand, meaningful multiplayer and structured scenario based team play. And obviously improved looking loot and a move away from the AH to actually droppting decent items for yourself.

 

have you given up on d3? or are you grinding in hope too?

 

Lulekani

There are RPG's and there are H&S's, as well as action RPG's - some RPG games are dependant on story more so, than loot :)

It's a big world out there, go see some more of it, chances are you won't be disappointed!