[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="lockjaw333"]

Well I admittedly can't comprehend most of the technical jargon, but big picture it seems kind of Funny. So they sacrificed GPU power to have some amazing audio chip and spend untold money on tweaking the DDR3 memory and EsRAM pool to try to make up for bandwidth limitations, while also adding Kinect. In order to keep the price reasonable then, they cut back on the GPU.

 

For a device that primarily plays video games, that is an extremely curious decision. They should have just scrapped all that crap and went for the most powerful GPU they could get in the box and still make it affordable, because at the end of the day the PS4 is just plain better hardware wise. Not to mention Sony probably spent so much less on R&D that it evens out losses they will take selling at $399.

 

Really no great news here.

lockjaw333

games are just as good on xbox one and the graphics are comparible, everything else blows away PS4 hardware wise. sorry bro, you are getting cheaper with the ps4, you get what you pay for. You want the best, get the XBO, simple as that, or go the budget route and the get ps4 with a ton of indies.

I didn't make any comment on which system I would get, just that it seems like they cut back on GPU power to include other things in the box. Favoring audio over GPU power is a stupid decision for a games console, and you are getting all excited about it trying to claim ownage for something no one really cares about.

I really wanted to see something better than the rumored 1.3 TFLOPS GPU, but they confirmed it in those slides. That to me is disappointing, I can't believe they spent that much on R&D to end up with a mid-range AMD 7770 card, in a box that's retailing for $500.

And for the record I'm disapointed in both systems power wise. Why the f*ck are we still seeing 720p and locked 30fps games...what was the point of the next-gen upgrade then?!

Well said.

[QUOTE="lockjaw333"]

Well I admittedly can't comprehend most of the technical jargon, but big picture it seems kind of Funny. So they sacrificed GPU power to have some amazing audio chip and spend untold money on tweaking the DDR3 memory and EsRAM pool to try to make up for bandwidth limitations, while also adding Kinect. In order to keep the price reasonable then, they cut back on the GPU.

 

For a device that primarily plays video games, that is an extremely curious decision. They should have just scrapped all that crap and went for the most powerful GPU they could get in the box and still make it affordable, because at the end of the day the PS4 is just plain better hardware wise. Not to mention Sony probably spent so much less on R&D that it evens out losses they will take selling at $399.

 

Really no great news here.

XBOunity

games are just as good on xbox one and the graphics are comparible, everything else blows away PS4 hardware wise. sorry bro, you are getting cheaper with the ps4, you get what you pay for. You want the best, get the XBO, simple as that, or go the budget route and the get ps4 with a ton of indies.

Meh, they're launch titles. I don't expect PS4 to really outdo Xbox One early on. And I guess that could help Xbox One. But a couple of years down the road that extra 500 gflops that PS4 has is going to start making a difference in a big way.

I keep hearing about 1.3 vs 1.8 and I dont see how flops makes or breaks a console performance. Wasnt the ps3 capable of 3 times the amount of Gflops the 360 could ?

TheRealBigRich

We're talking about AMD 7000 series GPUs here. Go to their website, look at the cards, and you'll see that the higher the tflops the better and more expensive graphics card it is.

I'll give em credit for one thing thougth; I didn't think they'd have the balls to admit to 1.3 tflops. I thought they'd take it to the grave. I said in another thread that they wouldn't provide any numbers at this conference. But I was dead wrong. Kudos for the honesty but I would have preferred a better GPU.

Well, they finally admitted 1.3 tflops. So that's it. It's over. There will be no meaningful upgrades for Xbox One. It still gets me that a company with as much money as MS got outdone by a company struggling as badly as Sony is.

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

http://ps4daily.com/2013/07/playstation-4-has-dedicated-audio-processor/

"PlayStation 4 lead architect Mark Cerny is always eager to talk about the hardware inside the PlayStation 4. He recently revealed that the PlayStation 4 has a dedicated audio processing chip, which is used to compress and decompress audio streams and various formats. This frees up some of the CPU power for other tasks. "

"The custom audio chip in the PlayStation 4 also deals with the voice chat system."

ManatuBeard

dude go read the beyond3d forum where bikilian talks about SHAPE. Audio is superior on the Xbox ONe. do you want the link?

I dont see "audio", i see "graphics"

I play with no sound (personal reasons).

Audio is superior, lol. Seriously, do you really care about that? Audio was just fine on the original Xbox,

What does this all mean?

Playerpat0

It means the Xbox One is basically the same as it always was. :(

Audo is a beast!

GPU

8GB of flash RAM?

timbers_WSU

Well, thanks for posting that. Sadly, 1.3 tflops is confirmed cuz it's right there in the middle-middle pic. Wtf is wrong with these guys? Who give's a rat's ass about an audio processor? What good is bandwidth if you have no graphics processing? What everybody was hoping for is improvements to the GPU and they did absolutely nothing with that. :( These guys are forcing me to buy a PS4 and it just pisses me off.

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

They are making a big deal out of the XB1's cache. Supposed to be a big deal. Also, The XB1 can be improved power wise through online updates (Not cloud updates) for better performance later. Microsoft still talking about stability. GPU is supposd to be flexible and upgradable.

Gibberish right now.

XBOunity

awesome stuff, when it comes to coding, Microsoft is the best. Looks like they made a very capable machine here. Neogaf is in tears right now. hUMA is no long exclusive lol and the bandwidth that leadbetter story broke looks in fact true. Plus dat 32mb of cache and then the 15mb of cache on the SOC. Looks like we will have some beautiful and amazing next gen games on the XBOX one afterall, always knew that was the case anyway.

The GPU still sucks. I'm amazed at how you guys can get excited over meaningless scraps. These so-called upgrades are beyond small and they didn't address the biggest problem AT ALL: the GPU. The GPU was and apparently still is garbage.