[QUOTE="Wickerman777"]

Never played that. But I LOVED Lost Odyssey. Most underated game of this gen imo. That there's never going to be a sequel is criminal.

Sweenix

Cant believe i haven't played that game, and the reason why it never got a sequel, was due to it's horrible sales, jrpg's never sold well on the xbox

They weren't good but I wouldn't call the sales horrible. Think it got fairly close to a million. But MS is kinda funny in that if you don't do blockbuster sales then you're out the door. I put 150 hours into that game. Was utterly addicted to it. As soon as I'd get home from work I'd put it on and wouldn't stop until I had to get to bed. That is highly unusual for me nowadays cuz I'm older now and don't play video games anywhere near to the extent that I did a long time ago. In fact, there's only been about 5-10 games this gen that had that kind of effect on me.

Never played that. But I LOVED Lost Odyssey. Most underated game of this gen imo. That there's never going to be a sequel is criminal.

That seems to be a rather large percentage of people moving from Xbox to PS4ziggyww

Yeah, they had Sony in their crosshairs, were in a good position to soundly defeat them for the first time, especially considering all the financial problems Sony is having. But they've blown it about as badly as something can be blown.

look forward to having the definitive Call Of Duty and Battlefield experiences on the Xbox One in a few months time!

I-AM-N00B

Hmm, I'm doubting Xbox One will have the definitive versions. More like the versions with lower framerate and/or resolution. Unless you're judging it by getting DLC first I guess.

Probably should have also included an option for people being so disappointed with both consoles that they're considering getting into PC gaming for the first time.

Whatever happened to looking forward when it comes to console design? It's been a long time, 8 years, but memory is telling me that when 360 came out it had a GPU in it that wasn't even on the PC market yet. Didn't the PC version come out later? Fast forward to now and we're getting consoles with Radeon 7000 GPU tech in them, which has been out a while already and will be getting replaced with Volcanic Islands late this year or early next year. Had this gone down the way 360 did Volcanic Islands is the architecture these consoles should be using.

Since I've had Xbox and Xbox 360 I really wanted to get Xbox One. But MS just isn't allowing me. The thing is too damned weak, so weak that the only reason I can come up with to justify buying it is fanboy sentimentality. I've been watching the rumor mill for months waiting for a meaningful upgrade but nothing ever happens. The 12 gig rumor just got shot down as well:

https://twitter.com/albertpenello/status/365515067225161729

So it's looking like they're sticking to the specs that shocked everyone when they leaked months ago ... shocked them because they're so terrible. Seriously, it would be better to delay than launch with that.

Guess as far as consoles go the only viable choice is PS4. It ain't all that powerful either but is at least somewhat respectable. I really don't want to get it though. I've been rooting against Sony for so long now that just thinking about buying a Playstation makes me feel dirty. And I really don't like the controller either. More and more I'm thinking about saying "Screw consoles!" and getting a gaming PC. That way I could use the sexy new Xbox One controller, have specs that are worth a damn, and pretend it's the new Xbox, ha ha.

These are the tested and most accurate TFLOP/GFLOP numbers to date (PS4 and XB1 are tested against AMD equivalent PC GPUs, since nobody has gotten ahold of the actual console GPUs yet):

 

 

PS4 = 1.85 TFLOPS MAX

Xbox One = 1.3 TFLOPS MAX (with recent clock upgrade)

PS3 = .40 TFLOPS MAX

Xbox 360 = 0.25 TFLOPS MAX

XBOX = 21.6 GFLOPS

PS2 = 6.2 GFLOPS

Wii = 2.9 GFLOPS

Dreamcast = 1.4 GFLOPS

 

Netherscourge

Still don't believe the PS3 is 400 gflops. Maybe in theoreticals, but not in real world performance. And wow, those Xb1 vs PS2 numbers are hard to believe. Xb1 was probably twice as powerful as PS2 but not 4X. This sort of thing is why comparing different architectures is diffiult. The nice thing about the upcoming consoles is that the architectures are similar and you can compare them in a more apples to apples way.

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

How big was the upgrade in graphics from PS2 to Xbox360? Does the upgrade from X360 to PS4 even compare?

blackace

The Xbox 360 tops out at 0.25 TFLOPS

The Playstation 4 tops out at 1.84 TFLOPS

I'd call that a rather HUGE upgrade.

it's more difficult to nail down PS3 gflops because Cell figures into it. Sony gave some crazy numbers (Can't remember exactly what they were) that were much higher than 360's but it never achieved anything like the performance they were claiming. So technically it can be said to be higher than 250 gflops but in my mind that's basically what both the current consoles are in real world performance.

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

How big was the upgrade in graphics from PS2 to Xbox360? Does the upgrade from X360 to PS4 even compare?

Netherscourge

The Xbox 360 tops out at 0.25 TFLOPS

The Playstation 4 tops out at 1.84 TFLOPS

I'd call that a rather HUGE upgrade.

It's around a 7X jump. Xbox One is around 5X as powerful as 360. Considering that 360 came out in 2005 I expected a 10X jump. But oh well, guess we're not getting that.