I think $600 is too much but I would have preferred beefier $500 consoles. Had Sony and MS given them perhaps 12 Jaguar CPU cores instead of 8 and bumped up the GPU side of the APUs to 24 working compute units rather than 12-18 I would have been a lot happier with them even at $100 more. And they would have been far more future proof as well. And considering that games have to be installed the HDDs should have probably been a terabyte.

Right, because remaking the same games over and over again for 30 years is so very innovative.

The big mistake MS made was hiring Don Mattrick. He single-handedly destroyed the Xbox brand. For once MS was showing competence with a hardware product, was even on course to become the market leader. But then that Kinect-lovin, "graphics don't matter" sob came along and ruined the whole thing.

It's weak. None of them are as powerful as they should have been.

I agree that resolution ain't everything. Imo going beyond 1080p/60 is a waste of resources. But it would be nice if these consoles could do 1080p/60 consistently ... especially when you're talking about ports of last-gen games. If they were the 2.5 tflops Epic Games recommended they probably could.

Sharper than that and you're kidding yourself, or you've got your forehead glued to the television screen ... probably both. A lot of people in studies fail to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p but PC guys are always swearing they can spot the difference between 2,235,788 and 2,235,787 pixels from 40 yards away.

I'm disappointed by the hardware ... well ... in Xbox One's case shocked by the hardware. X1 is only half the power it should have been. And now they'll go spend hundreds of millions or even billions on exclusivity deals and/or advertising, money that could have gone towards appropriate hardware.

Have skimmed through this thread a little bit and I keep seeing cows this and lems that. Look guys, this cows/lems thing is RETARDED. When are y'all gonna give it a rest? I can kinda understand why Sony fans like the nicknames cuz being called a cow ain't so bad ... dumb?... oh yeah ... but not so bad (Heck, I can even imagine a scenario where cow could be considered a compliment but I wasn't here when whomever created the tags so I'm not entirely sure what the intended meaning was). But lemming is a pretty insulting term in any/every way and it trips me out when I see even Xbox fans playing along and referring to themselves in that way, lol. But anyway, the whole thing is every kind of idiotic.

By this time it's extremely obvious that misterxmedia is utterly insane or a troll or both. Threads mentioning him in the title should be locked on sight.