[QUOTE="Ontain"] I agree with this. ppl make kb/m seem more intuitive then they are. I've tried to teach ppl including my gf how to play an fps. it's a huge struggle at first. a long learning curve. it's like when i try to use dual analogs. i just can't get it because i'm not used to it. i'm so used to the mouse.Jandurin

I do need my mouse's vertical business to be inverted though. Or I'll just suck it up hardcore.

Thats the point, once people get used to playing with a certain control scheme, it is hard for them to adapt to a different way. It's not the fault of the controller just the instincts of the player. The first FPS I played extensively on PC was Jedi Knight which has the vertical mouse axis inverted as default relative to what is standard for FPS nowadays, and so this is the control scheme I learned. I literally cannot play without the mouse inverted, even though the range of motions etc are exactly the same, I just cannot overcome my instinct to push the mouse forward to look down.

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]There's casuals for everything!!! There's those that like to watch movies that wins Academy Awards and there are those that like a quick buck comedy movies!!! The same can be said with music like how some prefer underground rap against comercial rap!!!gecko_hawaii13

This is a good point, but we're not arguing that there are casual, but that the majority of Wii's are owned by casuals.

People who tend to watch more artistic movies are more discerning not more hardcore. They probably watch LESS movies than people who watch the latest comedy or blockbuster. And of course the majority of people like to watch a variety of movies, some brainless action or comedy movies, some artistic thought provoking movies. Hardcore only refers to the amount of time spent playing game, it says nothing about the quality of the game.

For the record I am a casual player, and I got up early one Sunday morning and went with my wife to buy a Wii, who was desperate to get a Wii to play Rayman Rabbids after playing it with some friends. I am currently playing Resident Evil 4 (AAA), which will last me until a new quality title comes out, given that I only have 3 or 4 hours a week to play games.