This is from another thread that everyone seems ignore this point for obvious reasons.
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Results for all three platform holders for the third calendar quarter (July 1st - Sept 30th) 2010.
MICROSOFT FY11 Q1
Operating income for the Entertainment and Devices Division was $382 million.
2.8 million XBOX 360s sold; LTD of 44.6 million units.
Software attach ratio 8.9 (NPD).
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NINTENDO FY10 Q2
Net income for the company was ¥23.2 billion.
1.93 million Wiis sold; LTD of 75.9 million units.
37.04 million in software; LTD of 610.04 million units.
3.54 million DSs sold; LTD of 135.58 million units.
32.41 million in DS software; LTD of 773.34 million units.
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SONY FY10 Q2
Operating income for the Networked Products and Services Division was ¥6.9 billion.
3.5 million PS3s sold; LTD of 41.6 million units.
35.3 million in software; LTD of 350.6 million units.
1.5 million PSPs sold; 11 million in software.
1.5 million PS2s sold; 5.6 million in software.
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Of course all of the cows are claiming ownage over the PS3 outselling the 360 for the past 3 months. But in order to claim ownage, you have to establish that these numbers are credible. Are they credible? Well, the cows currently have mad cow disease and believe to heart these numbers.
However, look at the Nintendo DS hardware sales figures. Who believes that in July, August and September, the Sony PS3 and Nintendo DS sold roughly the same hardware units worldwide?
Whoever believes that, come here and explain to me how you believe this happened.
[QUOTE="alexfla"]The Sony numbers are obviously BS. They are claiming they sold more PS3 hardware and software than the Nintendo DS which is absurd.Samvigote
|System | This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD | ------------------------------------------------------------------ | NDS | 34.409 | 47.101 | 1.998.754 | 31.277.834 | | PSP | 33.515 | 38.717 | 1.667.402 | 15.410.490 | | PS3 | 20.128 | 22.201 | 1.141.524 | 5.642.891 | | WII | 11.971 | 12.810 | 1.097.513 | 10.702.712 | | 360 | 2.162 | 2.342 | 171.986 | 1.381.658 | | PS2 | 1.222 | 1.715 | 68.473 | 21.678.650 | ------------------------------------------------------------------ | DSiLL | 15.819 | 21.084 | 1.004.317 | 1.511.224 | | DSi | 14.703 | 20.749 | 798.257 | 5.137.203 | | DSL | 3.887 | 5.268 | 196.180 | 18.043.936 | ------------------------------------------------------------------ | PSP | 32.591 | 37.127 | 1.615.091 | 15.282.424 | | PSPgo | 924 | 1.590 | 52.311 | 128.066 | ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?t=411354 No they are not. In fact in japan alone this year from January to last week the PS3 has out sold the Wii by close to 50,000 units,in fact the week in this report show the PS3 almost doubling wii sales 20,000+ vs 11,000+,and vs the xbox 360 is even worst the PS3 since January this year it has out sold the xbox 360 in japan by almost 1 million units in japan alone. So no i don't thinks their number are BS,people think that just US matter and that UK = EU completely which is terribly wrong,since all matters and EU is almost as big gaming market as US is.
Try reading my post again. I said it is BS because it claims the PS3 is outselling the Nintendo DS.I never brought up the Wii.
Even in the numbers you quote here, the DS is SMASHING the PS3. I eagerly await your response. :)
Overheating, RROD, E74, CPU issues, you name it. Everything about this console is rushed. Keep in mind these are problems that STILL haven't been worked out in 5 years.
ohthemanatee
all of issues you mentioned have been corrected by the 360 S I believe
So maybe you think MS should've waited until 2010 to launch the 360?
I think it is pretty obvious they made the right decision as the are ahead of the PS3 and their software is still selling better each month than the PS3 also. Sony is the one that should regret their move with blu-rayas it probably has put them in a solid 3rd place for the rest of the gen behind the 360 and the Wii. Now I will say that I do disagree with you about the blu-ray not having any advantages over DVD for gaming sinec that normally have to compress stuff to put games on the 360 which they don't have to do for PS3 games.
3rdbass
Do you really think they don't have to compress textures for example on the PS3 because of blu-ray? What if the PS2 had a Blu-ray drive, would it have better texture quality than the 360?
Blu-ray has ZERO impact on the quality of the graphics because it all must fit into the system RAM. The advantage Blu-ray has is that they can store MORE textures for example and theoretically there can be a 200 hour PS3 game. The problem with that is that first of all the development time would be HUGE, we're talking 10+ years to develop. Second the budget would be ASTRONOMICAL as well say over 200 million. Then when it finally releases it would be competing against next gen games due to the long development time. Finally even if they did do this to take advantage of blu-ray then you could still port this game over to the 360 on a few DVDs.
The only real advantage Blu-ray has is with audio, they can put uncompressed audio if they want and this will fit on the disk. However, you would need an HDMI home theater receiver to take advantage of this. Another smaller advantage is the ability to have a lot of cutscenes in a game. You would have to span multiple DVDs depending on how much video you want to have in a game. So DVD can do this too but on Blu-ray you can keep the game on one disk.
A lot of people criticize the 360 being "rushed" to the market in 2005. But what should MS have done differently? How would waiting for 2006 benefited them?
5 years later, the main advantage the PS3 holds hardware wise over the 360 is the Blu-ray drive. And this is not an advantage for gaming. How many of you believe that MS should have waited for 4th quarter 2006 to release the 360 with a blu-ray drive for $600?
I'd like to know what systemwars thinks, please vote in the poll.
MS pays for timed exclusivity for the DLC of all the big multiplat games. 360 owners have gotten so used to just always having the best DLC available with no exceptions.
Meanwhile PS3 owners always have to wait months and sometimes over a year to get the DLC.
I don't really think it's fair to be honest. If I only had a PS3 and always had to wait for the DLC that I want I would be so angry.
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