I'm trying to figure out what is going on. I had to return my original XBOX to Best Buy because it quit working. It still had an extended warranty so they gave me in-store credit for my old box. The problem I have found in my area is that the 3 Best Buys around have none of the 360 models and they don't even show an estimated arrival of new ones being shipped in. Anyone heard any news on this?

[QUOTE="hjart6"]not everyone cares about the red ring, because you'll just get it fixed anyways. and microsoft better do something about it.hofuldig

They have. when you get the ring of death (3 red lights) sony will fix it free for 3 years. yep thats right 3 year warrenty baby.

Personally I think Wii has limitation due to the fact that they are targeting casual gamers.

The thing about casual gamers is that they won't be buying that many games. Assuming that Large portion of Wii owners are casual gamers that never had a console before, those consoles won't generate that much money compared to consoles owned by hardcore gamers will generate, because casual gamers don't buy as many games as hardcore gamers do.

Also casual gamers don't like complicated games. My friend is a casual gamer who never had any game system before. She likes Mario Party 8 and Warioware, but when she tried Paper Mario, she had to return it immediately because she thought it was boring and too confusing.

Using one person to generalize the situation isn't very good argument but I think there are more cases like this, especially with Nintendo specifically targeting casual gamers. Once the third party developers find out that despite the strong Wii sales, the market out there is limited, they will go back to other consoles to develop their games.

Also Wii has limitation with system power. Many complicated physics calculations and A.I could be impossible on Wii, also Wii games will be immediately inferior graphically. These are the elements that hardcore gamers look for because they enhance their gameplay experience.

Until I see more dedication towards hardcore gamers, I will not believe that Nintendo will be dominant console of this generation.

TriangleHard

One thing I see wrong in this. Every hardcore gamer started out as a casual. Who's to say Nintendo isn't introducing a whole mass of casual gamers that many of them may or will become hardcore gamers down the road. Just a thought.