@belz: Oh yea, without a doubt. They can delay the game all they need to get it right. Too many of the same people grip about delays as well as rushed games with tons of bugs.
If people can't stand the wait, maybe E3 isn't the best thing for them. Too many games are shown these days that are nowhere near finished. All this does is put pressure on the developers to push the product out faster. Probably doesn't make for a good work environment,
@belz: I think, if anything the complaints should be; why the hell are you showing things off so early? If you know it's nowhere near release, don't announce it. Just like the Star Wars portion this year. What the hell was that? They basically said "hey, we're working on Star Wars stuff!". No kidding, come back when you have a product ready to be shown.
It's frightening they would do something like that, leads me to believe they really don't have much else going for them and they needed some fillers.
So they're basically saying that they think the younger crowd is dumb and uneducated? Even if that were the case, take the opportunity to let a game be somewhat of a learning platform.
"World War 1, we were worried the younger consumers out there didn't know that there was a World War 2". Who cares, a lot of Battlefield content is based on stuff the younger consumer might know little about. If you want to base games off of what people know happened, how do you ever revisit future warfare with the Battlefield series? Those are wars that haven't happened, how is the younger consumer supposed to know about it? Whether the content happened or not, the consumer just wants something different for a change.
@Dragon_Nexus: This was my exact thought. WTF is wrong with people? He delayed a game; not a cure for cancer or your awkward partner less existence.
If this game is soooooo important to people don't you think they'd want a product the creator is confident in? These idiots are crying "just release a broken product so we can threaten you over that!"
@battlestreak: Good deal. I didn't realize there was such an enormous anti-online crowd. While I probably see eye to eye with them, that's no reason to go out and belittle what other people love. The only reason I even mentioned it in this case is because I love the Ghost Recon franchise and don't want to see it go always online.
You're right though, too many times you see the gaming community at each others throats and it's not necessary.
@battlestreak: The anti-online crowd does plenty of shaming... You said I did... Which I didn't.
We both agree that single player campaigns should be able to be played offline. I know the companies might not care about those who have internet issues, but they should. It's not some impossible technology. It's not as though they're asking for something that's never been done. As a matter of fact, they're asking for the oldest form of gaming entertainment.
As for the you not having issues; that was in reference to Internet. I'm not trying to dig through your personal life. Seems wierd.
@battlestreak: I didn't "shame" people for buying them. I said people do just shrug their shoulders and buy the product. At what point did I shame anyone? Hell even I'm guilty of it. I own some online only games which is why I've decided I, myself am done with them.
Plus, if you spend the money on a console and then you say, just ignore a game... That's kind of a dick thing to do. Sounds like Microsoft's #getoverit with the always online. It's b.s to alienate people who are willing to support your product. Is this your way of saying "hey that's your problem, I'm good".
Hell, I'm going to a school for a month and a half in the near future. I will have a TV, my console, and no internet. There is a month and half I'll have to rely on offline gaming.
You call it whining, I call it genuinely being concerned with the direction gaming is going and how it's giving some people the cold shoulder. No matter how small the populace, that shouldn't be the case with major releases. I don't care about MOBAs, MMOs, etc. that's obviously the platform they were meant to thrive on. To have a game that legitimately has a single player campaign though and make it to where you have to be online is a whole different beast. Offline gaming was never an issue before and it certainly shouldn't be now.
I can tell by your attitude that since it doesn't affect you, you don't care. Really though, who is caused problems through offline gaming? That's right... No one, no one gets left out. I apologize if it seems silly to worry about my money stil mattering down the road. Glad you don't have the issues few of us have, congrats.
@battlestreak: I've never said its not right if you want it, please quote that one for me. If you want it; have at it. I don't think it's whining making a case for the few gamers out there who are deprived an experience because people don't care to think some places just don't have Internet. If you come to rural areas there are plenty of people who can afford Internet, but simply don't have it (my parents being some of those). I live in a small town, our internet can go out days at a time. Everyone just assumes that everyone has Internet.
What kind of a statement is "if someone has little to no internet, why are they even playing games?" At what point did you HAVE to have Internet to enjoy games?
The game will be worthless at some point is what I'm saying. I've got years of entertainment out of Red Dead, Gears of War, Skyrim, etc. but they're not worthless because I could always still sell them, my kid can play them, or I can go back and play them myself. As much enjoyment as you may get out of an always online game, it inevitably becomes worthless.
@battlestreak: Stating that I'm not getting the game is not throwing a fit or whining. It's me as a consumer saying "keep going this direction and I won't buy your product". Do you call it whining when someone criticizes a demo because they want a better product? How about the people who have little to no internet. Or just the fact that your internet goes out... This game is done. How about a Diviosion type update and your character that you put so much time into disappears; awesome.
This is becoming more commonplace and the more you just shrug your shoulders and fork over money, the more they're going to do it. How long before you have this plethora of games collecting dust on your shelf because they're worthless.... Not just old, not just lack of fun; literally worthless.
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