You missed the important bit of that quote and that is where the quote was actually said. The quote was not aimed at "gamers" it was aimed at "investors". It is purely investor speak and designed to get people with money to invest in EA. When you talk to investors you quite literally say any bull to get them to part with their money, you will practically announce the Earth is flat if that will encourage people to invest in your company.

So with that in mind I will wait and see, I am very much looking forward to Mass Effect 3. I cannot wait to see the conclusion of Shepard's story and I am not going to let a bit of "investor" talk dampen my enthusiasm.

I also wouldn't say that "The Witcher 2" is a good example of a deep RPG selling well. There is no way "The Witcher 2" will ever match the same sales targets that they are aiming for with Mass Effect 3. At the end of the day enjoy the hype and the info, stop looking for "OMGZ I didn't like the sound of that" things.

I hate when people use abbrevations for names of things people have no clue about.

goosetroop

I would hardly call "GFWL" an obsucre abbreviation, pretty much most PC gamers know about Games For Windows Live which is quite long winded to type and has always been abbreviated to GFWL. Infact if you had taken all of 5 seconds to type in GFWL into google you would have seen plenty of links telling you what it stands for :roll:

As for the TC's complaints they are nothing new, most seasoned PC gamers have come to hate and despise GFWL. I personally will not touch any game that uses that service, we can only thank our lucky stars that developers are now coming round to the idea that "you put GFWL in your game and it dies sales wise". We have seen nearly all developers that used GFWL switch to other services such as steam. Obviously there are still one or two companies refusing to ditch GFWL (such as Codemasters) but that is their problem they obviously do not care about selling many copies of their games on the PC.

That vid made me laugh and confirms that Duke Nukem eats Kellogs All Bran (how else can someone go 32 times a day) :D

So you are basically saying play all games on a a mouse and keyboard because they are native .Why is a usb gamepad not native ??? Can you plug it in a console ?? Can you use it for anything else except playing video games on the PC ?? Is it more expensive than a keyboard and mouse ? DragutinTodos

I am saying that the primary focus for developers bringing games to the PC should always be Mouse and Keyboard. If you game on the PC then you should expect proper mouse and keyboard control but you should not expect joypad control. I do not expect developers to support the mouse and keyboard on the consoles (despite the fact you can connect a mouse and keyboard to them). It is fine if developers want to go to the added expense and time balancing their game for joypad control as well but that is up to them.

The reason the mouse and keyboard is the "native" control scheme is because nearly all computers come with a mouse and keyboard. You cannot use a computer without a mouse and keyboard just like you cannot use a console without a joypad. In other words a developer can be absolutely guaranteed that a PC gamer will have a keyboard and mouse that is what makes the mouse and keyboard native to the PC.

I do not own a joypad, I have no intention of ever buying a joypad. So if a developer makes their game with the joypad in mind I will quite happily skip the game completely. I do not like joypads and I do not want to play PC games with joypads. If I wanted to play a game with a joypad I would go and buy a console.

This is about having the same quality and options as a console gamer because we also pay for our games. DragutinTodos

In terms of controls the console platform supports only one input device which is the joypad. So if you want the "same" options as the console then naturally developers should only cater for the PCs native control system too which is the mouse and keyboard. If you are not happy with mouse and keyboard control then you have to ask yourself if PC gaming is for you. I don't like joypad's so obviously console gaming isn't for me I don't go demanding that the consoles support my preferred choice of control. I accept the fact that the primary control scheme on the consoles is the joypad.

Personally speaking I hope The Witcher 2 pounds Fable 3 into the ground sales wise (it already does it technically and gameplay wise). The company behind "The Witcher 2" deserves PC gamers money because they have produced a game with the PC platform at the heart of it. On the other hand Molyneux and co are just hoping for a quick cash grab by bringing a 6 month old console port to the PC. I know which company is getting my money and which company isn't that is for sure.

I would like to complain about the horrible keyboard and mouse support on the consoles, it's just lazy programming if you ask me :roll: . The keyboard and mouse are the PC's NATIVE control scheme just like the joypad is the consoles NATIVE control scheme. Whilst it is always nice to give people options the main thing a developer should concentrate on is making the game work with the PC's native control scheme anything after that is just a nice optional extra that you should NOT EXPECT.

If you don't like the mouse and keyboard control scheme then perhaps PC gaming is not for you. After all I can't stand the joypad control scheme consoles use so I accept I cannot play games on the console and don't go into the console section complaining about lack of mouse and keyboard control in console games.

Fair enough. Still plenty of great games on the PC though, so I wouldn't complain too much. Isn't the Witcher 2 coming out soon?

The_Capitalist

Yep there are plenty of great games coming to the PC, it is such a shame that this board seems to be obsessed with a few console only titles that the PC doesn't get. At the end of the day if you prefer to be a PC gamer and for whatever reason do not like consoles then you have to accept some games will not be made available to you. The same is true if you are prefer console gaming and for whatever reason do not like PC's there will be some games will not be made available to you.

I am probably luckin in the fact that most of Rockstars catalogue doesn't really appeal to me. I was only ever a fan of the GTA franchise and the PC version soon killed that off. But you do have a point in that if you want to play Rockstar games any time soon then you will need to own a console. If you cannot bring yourself to buy a console (for what ever reason) then you just have to accept that you won't be playing any games made by Rockstar.

Come on guys. I saved up four weeks worth of paychecks for a PS3 and a copy of RDR last year. It's not that hard.

The_Capitalist

There are plenty of reasons why someone would not want to buy a console for games. I can easily afford all three consoles if I wanted too, however I don't buy them because there just aren't enough games on the consoles that interest me to warrant the expenditure and I cannot stand the control scheme that consoles utilise. Not to mention the principle of "why should I have to buy a console that plays games worse than my PC" ? I would much rather not touch Rockstars catalogue than purchase an out dated expensive piece of electronics I would hardly ever use just to play their games.

As for LA Noire the official word from Rockstar is :-

"we do not have any plans for a PC/Mac version of L.A. Noire at this time."Rockstar

http://www.thegamerbuzz.com/rockstar-confirms-fate-of-la-noire-on-pcmac

That is exactly the same statement that Rockstar pulled out for RDR and we all know that game isn't on the PC. So no do not expect LA Noire to come to the PC

I wouldn't say no to Elite 4, I sunk weeks into the original Elite and would love to see a version of it for the PC today.