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#1 charmingcharlie
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If you are unable to find a save game that exactly matches then you can always use the save game editor :-

http://www.masseffect2faces.com/index.php?show=tutorials&tutorial=saveEdit

It is fairly basic but it gets the job done, plus it allows you to totally bypass all that mining crap in the game.

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#2 charmingcharlie
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Well I have to confess I didn't expect any one to actually drag this argument on and on and on. In my first post I believe I even praised the game and said it was a good game. As for the controller support probably find Bioware couldn't be bothered to port the controller code over to the PC :P and felt that PC gamers would be happy with a limited mouse and keyboard interface.

Let's just leave it at "you think it isn't a port and I think it is a port" there how about that. As for the actual topic in hand, I would say the game is very easy especially on the lower settings but "insane" does provide a reasonable challenge to those that want it. I have seen people say that "insane" was a lot harder in ME 1 than it is in ME 2 but I think that could be down to the fact things were "clunkier" in ME 1.

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#3 charmingcharlie
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Could someone PLEASE just tell him Mass Effect 2 is NOT ported. Otherwise I'm done trying to explain something obvious to ignorant people.

coreybg


The only one being ignorant here is you, you just keep screaming "it's not a port it's not a port, someone tell him it's not a port". Then you carry on by insulting me and calling me ignorant you aren't exactly doing much for your case here. As I said Mass Effect 1 was most definitely a port there is absolutely NO DOUBT about that. The case with Mass Effect 2 is slightly murkier, but there are indications within the game that suggest it was merely a port of the xbox 360 version with lip service paid to the control scheme on the PC.

The thing you are completely missing is the fact it is totally irrelevant whether the game was a port or not. What matters is it was a "GOOD" game, it was an enjoyable game regardless of whether it was a port or not a port.

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#4 charmingcharlie
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There is a DIFFERENCE between a PC version and a CONSOLE port

And Mass Effect 2 is NOT ported.

What people think is irrelivant in this matter.

If you can't understand that I'd suggest you don't make stupid uninformed agruments.

coreybg

we really need a "bang your head against your desk" emoticon for this board. Fine coreybg you want to keep telling yourself that then feel free, it is after all what YOU THINK but then you just said "what people think" is irrelevent. I think it is a fair comment to say both versions are ports to the PC you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about that. However it doesn't change the fact the first ME was definitely a port and there is good reason to believe the second one was a port too.

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#5 charmingcharlie
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Umm there is a difference between a PC version and a console port. The first ME may have been a port, but 2 had a PC version.

coreybg

OK we get it you don't think it was a port coreybg, this may come as a shock but a lot of other people do think both ME 1 and ME 2 are ports. The fact is we will never know, if you ask Bioware they are hardly going to go "oh yeah we concentrated on the xbox 360 and just ported it to the PC". Whatever you want to call it the xbox 360 version was Bioware's focus and the PC version was an afterthought as witnessed by the fact Demiurge Studios did a better job catering for the PC interface than Bioware did.

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#6 charmingcharlie
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Only "PC" gamers like you would care about that kinda stuff.JangoWuzHere

Well there is your answer then, you refuse to accept that Mass Effect 2 was a port because it "feels" like a PC game ? I have to wonder what PC games you have played because I have been a PC gamer for 20 odd years and I wouldn't say Mass Effect feels like a PC game at all. At best ME 2 is a gears of war rip off with some pretty basic RPG elements using a control system that sorely neglects what is available on the PC. So I really don't see how you can claim it "plays like a PC game".

There is very little point arguing this it is pretty obvious the first Mass Effect was a port to the PC since it was on the console first, came to the PC 6 months later and wasn't even ported by Bioware. The situation with Mass Effect 2 is a bit murkier but I would say looking at the graphics and control scheme it feels like a console port. This doesn't change the fact that it is a very good game and for the most part an excellent job was done on porting both ME 1 and ME 2 but it doesn't change the fact that these can be classed as ports.

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#7 charmingcharlie
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Soo, the first game didn't have a PC versoin?

What I thought was, that you think it's a port because it was on xbox first lol.

My bad then :P

P.S: It still doesn't look like a port :roll:

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Where did I say the first game was not on the PC ? I didn't I said that Demiurge Studios ported the 1st Mass Effect game on the PC and Bioware had very little to do with the PC VERSION. In fact if you ask a fair few PC gamers they will say that Mass Effect 1 was technically a much better port than Mass Effect 2. I know I personally think Demiurge went out of their way to try and PC'fy Mass Effect 1 whereas Bioware in their port of Mass Effect 2 paid very little attention to making it work with the PC's control interface.

The PC suffers because the franchise is nothing but a port we have fantastic hi-res facial textures but crappy low res clothes textures, we get a control scheme where we can't even use the damn scroll wheel :roll: or the second mouse button, or double clicking, We get a control scheme where we can't even select weapons with the number keys. As much as I enjoy Mass Effect 1 and 2 they were both console ports. The fact the game runs well just means they were "good" console ports.

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#8 charmingcharlie
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That's not a console port. That's being more consolized.

The game has a PC version. While a port is not a PC version.It's just the console game playable on PC with some minor tweaks such as controlls.

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I really don't know what else to say that will convince you this is a console port. The game was on on the xbox 360 first it only came to the PC 6 months later because EA bought Bioware. Hell Bioware didn't even have anything to do with the first Mass Effect 1 on the PC it was ported by Demiurge Studios. The game is a port whether you like it or not the fact it runs well is irrelevant to it being a port. The game is a port but it is a very good port and runs very will on the majority of hardware but it is still a port of an xbox 360 game.

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#9 charmingcharlie
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Erm not really it is just a "good" console port, but it doesn't change the fact it is a port of an Xbox 360 game and therefore incredibly limited. You can see many of the limitations in Mass Effect 2 the fact PC gamers have a 102 key joypad but we have to use 1 key to do 3 separate actions (run/cover/use). I am not complaining about the game I happen to enjoy Mass Effect, but it is clearly a console port with the gameplay aimed and geared around the joypad.

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#10 charmingcharlie
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Since when is Mass Effect a console port?

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Erm since Mass Effect 1 ? I mean it was on the xbox 360 6 months before it came out on the PC and the PC version was basically a port of the xbox 360 version. I think this game falls into the category of "console port" if you ask me.