I'm looking for a game that is simple yet really fun.It can be any genre really. I was thinking maybe mount and blade but I don't know how that game plays.

I'd like to be able to play it in short sit downs too..

Fairly high for a game based on the Source engine isnt it? wood_duck

When I spoke with a valve programmer he said that they are constantly updating and improving the source engine.

wow Much higher then I thought it would be.JangoWuzHere

Same.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/913/913954p1.html

yep

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1.You can't deny that Warhammer was released too early with it cutting major cities and classes just to fit EA's needs. Yes, lots of MMOs are released too early but Major Cities are just that, Major Cities.

4. I never said anything about PvP or PvE and do not have a blind loyalty to any game considering I haven't played WoW for a long time.

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A few quotes for you from a gamespy's first part review.

"Warhammer Online has had the smoothest, most complete MMO launch we've ever seen."

"This is a game that has 20 separate classes and while some may be overpowered or underpowered, none of them are boring to play. The game comes loaded with PvP and PvE content that -- balance issues notwithstanding -- is as good as or much better than that of any other MMO on the market."

Last time I checked, there were only 3 level 40s. I feel that you can't say a game is "complete" when you don't even have a level 40 (assuming they aren't one of them). The game has only been out 11 days and any review that is out at this point is going to be incomplete.

[QUOTE="crazymaghie123"]

address all your nonsense.

1.You can't deny that Warhammer.....

blah, blah, blah.....bunch of crap in the middle......blah, blah, blah

4. I never said anything about PvP or PvE and do not have a blind loyalty to any game considering I haven't played WoW for a long time.

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My answers for your uninformed 1-4

1) The cuts were done for good reason and will be added in time, it's not a big deal and doesn't hurt the game a bit.

Thats debatable.

2) I never said anything about end game so I have no idea why you're going there.

The end game is what you'll be playing for hours and hours when you finally hit the cap. Every game gets boring after a while, the question is, how long? We'll see with WAR. Its all personal really.

3) Sure you can criticise WAR without being a Blizzard fan boy. But if you don't know what you're talking about then why are you criticizing at all? I know you don't have the game and every time a War topic comes up you never miss a chance to defend your beloved WoW's supremacy over the mmo market.

I played WoW from release until BC. I picked it up again this summer and played from early june-august and chose not to continue my subscription. I'm not biased and I have played 15 hours+ of Warhammer through Beta and my friends account.

4) Well that's funny because I have seen many ignorant post from you about War...2 of them right here in this topic.

You said:

"The only game that will take WoW down is Blizzard's next MMO which is early in developement."

So uh...yeah you pretty much sound like a fan to me considering you don't think any game could take down WoW but another Blizzard game.

I stand by this. Never before has an MMO had such a large following and I believe when Blizzard releases this new MMO most people who play WoW will switch to this game, essentually "defeating or killing" WoW which is the topic.

You also said:

"FunCom=Age of Conan

EA/Mythic=Warhammer

Both=Forced out too early hahaha"

So whats the "hahahahahha" all about? What is it that has you all cracking up?

Its funny seeing companies making the same mistakes time and time again, especially EA which I have no respect for.

Anyway, whatever....

I love WoW and I know at some point I'll pick up again where I left off. I'm not saying that overall WAR is the better game because I'm not a high enough lvl to know that yet. But I do know that WAR's PVP IS better than WoW's and a whole lot more fun.

I'm glad you're having fun ;)

I want people to have fun!

I'm done with you and don't plan on replying again...it's pointless really.

So why track me?

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FunCom=Age of Conan

EA/Mythic=Warhammer

Both=Forced out too early hahaha

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Uh...you have no idea what you're talking about. WAR is the best MMO launch I have ever seen. WoW's was terrible as far as servers go but the game itself was in decent shape.

wow, you just couldnt be a bigger blizzard fanboy could you?

Having played WoW for 4 years I can tell you right now WAR's PvP KILLS WoW...and I mean KILLS. As far as PvE I think WoW has the edge but not by a whole lot. I love WoW but not so much that I just have some kind of blind loyalty. iI's just sad I tell ya....

Heres my list to address all your nonsense.

1.You can't deny that Warhammer was released too early with it cutting major cities and classes just to fit EA's needs. Yes, lots of MMOs are released too early but Major Cities are just that, Major Cities.

2. You can't judge Warhammer until you're level 40 and have been so for a few months. Tell me how the end game is then.

3. I can criticise WAR without being a Blizzard fan boy.

4. I never said anything about PvP or PvE and do not have a blind loyalty to any game considering I haven't played WoW for a long time.