[QUOTE="crucifine"]My current favorite song is Arsis - A Diamond For Disease. Unfortunately, I can't link it, it's 13 minutes long, and thus, not hosted in its full glory on any major sites. Besides, its death metal, you guys probably wouldn't like it.NextGenNow

[QUOTE="crucifine"][QUOTE="zh666"]

[QUOTE="crucifine"]
Death did not start death metal. It was mostly by two seperate bands who ended up with a similar formula, Possessed, and Cryptic Slaughter. There are a few other bands who aren't as well known, but these two were essentially the first. Death elaborated on Possessed's formula, and Carcass (and others) elaborated on Cryptic Slaughter's formula.

And Luca Turilli is just an Italian Herman Li. Speed != complexity.zh666

Cryptic Slaughter's first demo (the most death metal-y stuff they did) was released in 85, which is a little late... their importance is mostly felt on Thrash, Grindcore and Crossover rather than Death anyways...

 You seem to have been involved in that scene since it's culmination, which I haven't.  I'm just going on what I know, which for someone without a couple decades of exposure, is certainly not omnipotence.  Cryptic Slaughter is just the earliest band in my library to have a Grind tinge, and Possessed is the earliest in my library to have a Death tinge.

I would say Hellhammer was the first Death Metal band and Repulsion is probably the first full on grind band.. Cryptic Slaughter is more of a crossover band like D.R.I.... Siege, Deep Wound, and a bunch of others are very important to grind, but I would say Repulsion is the first...

[QUOTE="crucifine"]
Death did not start death metal. It was mostly by two seperate bands who ended up with a similar formula, Possessed, and Cryptic Slaughter. There are a few other bands who aren't as well known, but these two were essentially the first. Death elaborated on Possessed's formula, and Carcass (and others) elaborated on Cryptic Slaughter's formula.

And Luca Turilli is just an Italian Herman Li. Speed != complexity.zh666

Cryptic Slaughter's first demo (the most death metal-y stuff they did) was released in 85, which is a little late... their importance is mostly felt on Thrash, Grindcore and Crossover rather than Death anyways...

[QUOTE="crucifine"]Quite well, actually. I came up with that particular reasoning in the middle of a philosophy lecture, because I wanted to prove the determinists wrong on my own. I welcome criticism of my argument, though.

SpaceMoose

My biggest criticism of it would be that it hardly makes sense. :P

Hence the LSD comment. 

As for Death Metal, the genre was poioneered by the band Death, hence the name.  Death essentially took thrash metal and took it to an extreme.  Thrash was pioneered by bands such as Exodus, and was made popular by Metallica and Megadeth.  Exodus and the other early thrash bands developed their sound by combining the elements of punk rock with the heaviness, aggression, etc. of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal bands like Black Sabbath and, of course, taking it to the next level in terms of speed, etc.makingmusic476

[QUOTE="crucifine"]From my experience, at least I have free will. It is my belief that we start off on a path, and that we have to utilize our inherent free will to decide whether or not to stay on it. I know I've broken off of my path, I can't speak for everyone else.

And while it could have been decided that I would be motivated to break off of that path, to have a motive, one must have free will. To have a motive, one must have self-interest, and to have self-interest, one must be free to be interested in theirselves. If we were not free to be interested in ourselves, then we would not make conscious decisions.
SpaceMoose

So how is that LSD working out for you?