[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

Bullshot + mods. Vanilla Crysis looks nothing like that. And I maxed everything out with the exception of AA.

ferret-gamer

MAYBE not bullshots, but definitely mods. All Im saying is the picture he posted is not Crysis.

Can someone link one of his threads or posts?

Bullshot + mods. Vanilla Crysis looks nothing like that. And I maxed everything out with the exception of AA.

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ People actually watch late night shows like this? Esh. ▲

SilentSoprano

Nobody seemed to care about those shows until this whole NBC fiasco happened. Then all of a sudden a bunch of people out of nowhere act like the world is ending because a TV host gets fired.

Which is why Letterman, Leno, Conan, Kimmel, etc. are rich as hell. But no one cares about their shows, so they must be robbing banks or something.

Can someone post some of his threads?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHeyO2W8aPU&feature=player_embedded

Its Conaw.

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"] XBL isn't free, and it never was. So how is anyone paying for something that was free? PSN is not XBL. They are two different things.

Not knowing when to mind your business and let other people learn from their "mistakes"-Not smart.

Not realizing that what may not be of value to you may be of value to someone else-Not smart

These things show me you are not in any way an authority on what is "smart".

I completely understand people's opposition to XBL, but you cannot determine that it is dumb for someone to want to subscribe to the service because they see value in it and you don't. You aren't doing yourself any favors thinking like that. Like I said, it's immature.

Live and let live.

heretrix

Are you really going to argue that people pay for XBL because they want to? Or that its a great value to some? Probably a very small minority, but most people pay for XBL because they have no choice. MS has taken away a feature (online play) that is supposed to be free and included it into a priced package of features most people dont care about. You know this. I dont know why youre even bothering to make an argument. Political correctness?

You know whats not smart? Ignoring an issue like this. If everyone just ignored this topic of paying money to play online, then other companies like Sony and Nintendo will adopt it and we'd all be screwed. And you know who we'd have to thank? People like you who say "mind your own business".

Youre a consumer. You need to come back to this side of the spectrum.

Your complete lack of understanding what is a pretty simple concept again proves you have no business determining what is smart.

You just said it. People wont pay for something unless it has value. They pay for XBL because they see value in it, in other words, they want to pay for it. Its commonly accepted that most 360 owners have a 360 because their friends had one. They only made that conscious decision to go that route because they wanted to play online with their friends, not to access Facebook, Twitter, Netflix on their TV.

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"] XBL isn't free, and it never was. So how is anyone paying for something that was free? PSN is not XBL. They are two different things.

Not knowing when to mind your business and let other people learn from their "mistakes"-Not smart.

Not realizing that what may not be of value to you may be of value to someone else-Not smart

These things show me you are not in any way an authority on what is "smart".

I completely understand people's opposition to XBL, but you cannot determine that it is dumb for someone to want to subscribe to the service because they see value in it and you don't. You aren't doing yourself any favors thinking like that. Like I said, it's immature.

Live and let live.

clone01

Are you really going to argue that people pay for XBL because they want to? Or that its a great value to some? Probably a very small minority, but most people pay for XBL because they have no choice. MS has taken away a feature (online play) that is supposed to be free and included it into a priced package of features most people dont care about. You know this. I dont know why youre even bothering to make an argument. Political correctness?

You know whats not smart? Ignoring an issue like this. If everyone just ignored this topic of paying money to play online, then other companies like Sony and Nintendo will adopt it and we'd all be screwed. And you know who we'd have to thank? People like you who say "mind your own business".

Youre a consumer. You need to come back to this side of the spectrum.

Because the PS3 had a late and bad launch. The early 360 owners didnt have the other free online alternative. Everyones friend and their dog had a 360 so the later 360 owners just bit the bullet and got the 360 so they could play with everyone else. Thats a logical explanation for why people would pay money to play their games online when no other system requires it.

Want me to create a poll to prove my point? "Would you pay for XBL if online play was already free?" If XBL was such a great deal, then PSN+/PSN ratio should look quite different than it does now. And any success of PSN+ is likely due to the freebies that Sony has thrown in like free monthly games. If XBL is such a great deal, then why hasnt the majority of the whatever million PS3 owners purchased a PSN+ membership?

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]Who are you to determine what's "smarter" for people?

gamer-adam1

Im just a consumer who knows paying money for something free isnt smart. How about that?

PC online gaming wouldnt survive without gamers paying to maintain servers and helping keep mods alive. I guess you believe that Garrys Mod should be free?

And? Hosting servers cost money. P2P doesnt. People pay for servers because they want to. And what does Garrys Mod have to do with this? I would like it to be free but Valve bought it and started charging for it. I have no problem with it costing money because the modder spent time working on it, thats why I paid for it.