@leixiang @Birth_By_Sorrow Same answer. You could have had an uncommonly good experience with the XBox game and/or an uncommonly bad experience with the PS game and you're letting it rule your decision. Other people posting here have had other experiences, and there is no consensus that XBL is a better service than the free ones.

@Vojtass They don't care about PC gaming any more, it's all XBox for them.

@rene9ade520 Again, XBox is nothing but a PC dedicated to gaming. It has all the same basic capabilities.

@MajahretDiviera You should have the convenience of being able to do it all from the XBox. There is no reason you can't other than not wanting to pay their fee. If it was free, you would probably not resort to Skyping from your PC or whatever.

Liberal Rant. Apparently opining that something is not worth the money asked with lots of supporting facts is a commie plot.

@_huh You are misinformed, sir. The record for maximum concurrent XBox live users is 2.2 million across all games and services. Steam's record is 6 million. There are way more PC gamers than 2.2 million online all the time just playing MMO's. League of Legends alone has a record of 1.3 million concurrent players.

@im-a-roustabout @_huh They actually tried to sell Windows Live Gold years ago but no one signed up. It was a huge flop because even the noobiest PC gamer knew better and PC gaming press pointed at MS and laughed. They just ended up gimping their Windows Live games and hurting their sales because people wouldn't pay extra to get online features. Even to play Halo years after it came out on XBox.... (don't get me started on that.)

@MajahretDiviera Which brings up another point: It's pretty lame they're pushing people into multitasking with multiple devices to avoid their fee.

I agree with everything except the notion that when XBox first came out that Live Gold was worth the money. It wasn't worth any more than connectivity from a PC was, and it was always free everywhere on a PC, as stated. Even though XBox is basically a PC, online options from a PC are still miles ahead of what XBox (and other consoles offer) XBox wasn't first, PC's were, and they set the standard that XBox has yet to approach.

This isn't PC elitism, it's just common sense. The clincher is the $100.00 MS used to charge for wireless networking that everyone else includes in their initial price. They no longer do that because they can't get away with it any more, but they feel they can still get away with charging for online connectivity. The fact is they were just taking advantage of uninformed people from the beginning and they never should have tried to get away with these things in the first place.

@Danzorz88 @bonander No, you can't. Half of the game runs on the server like an MMO, and you're running a client on your end. If they shut down the server the client is useless.