[QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]This is all pointless..... Look at the trend line. Given that there are no more supply problems, starting in January.....look at the sales trends for each console. That will tell you the PS3's problem. Want to know the cause? Stupid moves by Sony, in particular a astronomical price, bad press and angry fans What will make it even worse? The shock when what publishers have already done is made public....make the games that made the Playstation brand multiplatform (or worse). DMC, GTA....just the start....guaranteed. That stuff isn't over yet. Want to know what's going to happen? Drop off in sales of the console. A clear distancing between the PS3 & competition. That's if Sony does nothing. They can make changes, but at this point it has to be drastic and probably has to happen before the holidays, cause if the loss of momentum is very clear to the consumers.....it could be a short ride. The trend line is irrelevant because the xbox 360 has an extra christmas season. Take out November and December 2006 and I'll be happy to look at the trendline
[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"]FACT - PS3 offers free online play FACT - PS3 is capable of WiFi right out of the box FACT - PS3 plays the latest, most popular video format (blu-ray) right out of the box FACT - If you wanted an Xbox 360 to do all those things above, you would spend $750 (25% MORE than the PS3 costs) FACT - There are 3rd party exclusives that will use the power of the PS3 and therefore will NOT appear on other consoles FACT - Sony has the longest, and richest history of 1st party exclusives of anyone except for Nintendo FACT - The PS3 is selling faster than the Xbox 360 FACT - Outside of North America the Xbox 360 is WAY behind FACT - The PS3 offers a motion sensitive controller that is being used in better and better ways all the time. Those are the facts. Those are not my opinions. Those are all backed up by actual events, data from vgcharts.org, and categorical truths that cannot be denied.3picuri3
Maybe you should stop reading Fanboy sites for your news -- 1/3 of those are NOT facts. and they don't make the PS3 any more appealing for me (and I own one, lol).
[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]care to prove me wrong?
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Prove you wrong? You didn't make an argument other than to say that Vgcharts is stupid. Until you explain WHY they are stupid and exactly WHY you disagree with their methodology there is nothing to prove wrong. How about this one.....I had unicorn for dinner last night Care to prove me wrong?
FACT - PS3 offers free online play FACT - PS3 is capable of WiFi right out of the box FACT - PS3 plays the latest, most popular video format (blu-ray) right out of the box FACT - If you wanted an Xbox 360 to do all those things above, you would spend $750 (25% MORE than the PS3 costs) FACT - There are 3rd party exclusives that will use the power of the PS3 and therefore will NOT appear on other consoles FACT - Sony has the longest, and richest history of 1st party exclusives of anyone except for Nintendo FACT - The PS3 is selling faster than the Xbox 360 FACT - Outside of North America the Xbox 360 is WAY behind FACT - The PS3 offers a motion sensitive controller that is being used in better and better ways all the time. Those are the facts. Those are not my opinions. Those are all backed up by actual events, data from vgcharts.org, and categorical truths that cannot be denied.
[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"][QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]Look at the chart......the PS3 sold 127k last month with many units on shelves.....the 360 sold 160k in Feb 06 AND it was sold out everywhere. Right now the PS3 has sold about 40k more overall (out of 1.1 million) than the 360 at the same point......a difference that wouldn't be there if Microsoft didn't have supply problems. Wait till next month. It's clear the PS3 is on a downward trend....127k is pathetic 4 months into a launch. The hype is dying and people just won't pay $600 for a PS3. Sony needs to do something fast, cause the PS3 collapse is happening.3picuri3
Um, excuse me but what games came out for the PS3 in February? Uhhhh, none really. So fine, let's "wait until next month" when we see the effects of Motorstorm, virtua fighter 5, armored core 4 and oblivion. YOu act like its some great feat for the 360 to be outselling the PS3 right now when they have about five times as many games out. The fact is on a LEVEL playing field the PS3 is selling faster. You can't deny it. The charts are right there for you. And enough about the "supply problems" just because Sony learned their lesson from the PS2 launch doesn't mean that Microsoft gets a pass.
we can all deny it -- your using a totally flawed site to prove your point, doesn't matter that the fanbois in SW voted it the official source, it's still bunk.
just you wait until the stories start popping up about how pathetic the launch was -- then you can try to argue for the console.
So if vgcharts is wrong, do you propose a better source? OTherwise, shut up. You can't just point at something and say its wrong when you know NOTHING about it. NOR can you point out WHY its wrong. and on top of that, you can't point to ANYTHING else. So shut up
oooo - told me to shut up twice. big man. might have to pass this one on to the mods seeing you can't articulate your thoughts without lashing out at others.
i'll let you believe what you want to - i'm not going to lead you by the hand through the internets to show you what you should be perfectly capable of finding yourself.
So you're saying that you REFUSE to produce evidence to support your argument? Great debate tactic.
[QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]Look at the chart......the PS3 sold 127k last month with many units on shelves.....the 360 sold 160k in Feb 06 AND it was sold out everywhere. Right now the PS3 has sold about 40k more overall (out of 1.1 million) than the 360 at the same point......a difference that wouldn't be there if Microsoft didn't have supply problems. Wait till next month. It's clear the PS3 is on a downward trend....127k is pathetic 4 months into a launch. The hype is dying and people just won't pay $600 for a PS3. Sony needs to do something fast, cause the PS3 collapse is happening. Um, excuse me but what games came out for the PS3 in February? Uhhhh, none really. So fine, let's "wait until next month" when we see the effects of Motorstorm, virtua fighter 5, armored core 4 and oblivion. YOu act like its some great feat for the 360 to be outselling the PS3 right now when they have about five times as many games out. The fact is on a LEVEL playing field the PS3 is selling faster. You can't deny it. The charts are right there for you. And enough about the "supply problems" just because Sony learned their lesson from the PS2 launch doesn't mean that Microsoft gets a pass.
http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=PS3&name2=X360&type=2&align=0 See how the blue line is higher than the orange line? That means the console is selling faster. That means it got that high on teh chart in a SHORTER time. It's the cold hard facts. That's it. You can try to qualify it and say that "the 360 had supply problems" but that's all nonsense. Microsoft paid the price, and continues to pay the price, for rushing a shoddy console to the marketplace. Besides, whose to say that those 360's would have sold if they were on the shelves. Just because Sony learned their lesson after the PS2 launch doesn't mean that their sales are slow. They just learned that this time, they need to produce enough to go around.
[QUOTE="snyper1982"][QUOTE="ghaleon0721"]Here's the Link, AGAIN http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=X360&name2=PS3&type=0&align=0 You can't compare 360 sales today to PS3 sales today. It's just not fair. The games library are so different that it skews the numbers. Also Xbox had 1 more X-mas season than the PS3. You have to compare on a LEVEL playing field. Dude, look, the PS3 is not competing with the '06 360, it is competing RIGHT NOW. So that is the ONLY comparison that makes any sense. What good did the first 360(or PS3) xmas season do? They were both sold out because of launch.... Not to mention that the PS3, is beating a console in 4 moths sales figures, ONLY because the console was largely unavailable during that period of time.... What does that say about the PS3? You know what fine, you're right. All that matters is what is selling right now. Today's sales are all that matters. So that means that the 360 sucks even more because it's losing to a last gen system. RIGHT NOW......TODAY......MARCH 23, 2007....the number one selling console is the Playstation 2
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