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#1 godonholiday
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The best multiplayer games are the ones your friends are playing.

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The best multiplayer games are the ones your friends are playing.

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#4 godonholiday
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NeoEnigma's screenshot taken from screenshot thread.  Credit goes to him but I'd like to use this to further prove my point.  Even in beta, look at what BF4 can do and show you that BF3 coudn't touch with a 1000ft pole.  BF3's maps were small.  BF3 players that played hours and hours of it would even admit that.

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I actually disagree, this BETA map feels small to me. The verticality of it is impressive.. but it amounts to the same space on the ground, lifted into the air. You get in a lift that takes you up all the floors. I would have been more impressed if there where a couple of levels to actually play on. The amount of area taken up by places you can not get in has actually increased. For me, the actual playable area, when on foot, is about the same as BF3. All it seems they have done is let you fly higher and elevated one area. The other building tops are the same as in BF3. Looks/visuals - I have a an old 590, i5 and it looks ok, it looks like how I imagined BS3 to look with the filters off. It is still fun.. but on a new level? no This argument about giving them time to push the limits? We are nowhere near pushing the limits of PC GPUs that have been out for 5 years. They have had all the time to push PC to the limits, very little has changed.
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#5 godonholiday
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I agree.  I don't know where they are getting these expectations either.

I have no expectations.. but DICE said they turned off some assets and I don't think they'd BS. The game has to look at least equivalent to BF3, but with a lot more going on. It's Frostbite 3.0, not Frostbite 2.0. It would be stupid to backpedal, having worse graphics and less dynamic graphical features like destruction (levelution), better particle effects, etc. I'm not even buying the game until December and my hype is 0. I'm simply saying that people are complaining about a beta. It's okay to list your problems and issues in beta.. to give feedback to DICE but don't complain and make a thread about graphics..

It's even dumber to think that we were going to see next-gen graphics with BF4.. when BF3 didn't even have true destruction.. These things takes time. They take new iterations of the game engine. It's really easy as consumers to bitch and whine isn't it? You're not the one making the game that takes a ton of man power and brains. Some people here lack one.

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" bitch and whine isn't it?" no one is doing that here? Chill out. Just discussing what peoples expectations are, why they are and if they are being met. Your opinion is fine and on point in some areas, you dont need to pull it towards a fight. As I have mentioned a couple of times, this was more a comment on ALL the new games. Not just BF4. BF4 however, is one of those games that made the biggest jump from 2 to 3, in all areas. They have not made that jump this time.. thats fine and understandable. Other games are yet to make the jump BF3 made, why? Surely this was the chance to blow us all away and get us to upgrade, buy new consoles... that just hasnt happened for me yet. I know its early days, especially for the new consoles.. BUT it is NOT early days for PC.
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#6 godonholiday
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In DICE's defense, and obviously so, there's way more going on in BF4 than BF3. And it's still too early to tell. Some of the graphics options are not available/enabled in the beta. I mean, i didn't have to say this but it should be common knowledge by now.Elann2008
It is. As mentioned above does any of that make it 'next gen' or could the time and effort/hardware be used to do different things. As I said at the start, its not a BF4 BETA bash.. but more a question of what peoples expectations are and are they being met? If not, why not on PC? The architecture hasn't changed.
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#7 godonholiday
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[QUOTE="Ondoval"] I really miss Bad Company 2 levels of destruction. Both BF3 and the BF4 beta seems watered down in that aspect..yellosnolvr
i see what you mean, but having like 8 prefab buildings featuring semi-detailed destruction isn't a whole lot better than what bf3/4 offer. while the level of destruction has been drastically reduced, there's more objects to be destroyed and a much higher visual quality in destruction all around. bf3:close quarters and the bf4 beta have a great deal of sexy looking destruction, and those really brought destruction a step forward in a sense. but, i do agree with you that there needs to be a map in bf4 that allows you to completely level its structures. that was what made bc2 unique with its own 'levelution' that offered more in terms of strategy.

Yeah, I think you are right, maybe its the locations in BF4.. sexy and shiny.. I liked the dirty BC2 small houses that fall apart. Taking cover was a tricky thing. Now, no one takes cover, they just run around OR stay still and snipe. Its none stop.
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#8 godonholiday
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Yeah Star Citizen does look good, and funded in a new era of fan financing which is very cool. I worry that the cyberpunk game might not make it to production, but I am looking forward to witcher3!
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#9 godonholiday
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Thanks for the responses. I agree with a lot of what has been said.. I guess for me, I havent seen enough in these BETAs or previews to get excited for what is on the horizon. Esp for AAA games. That might be why indie games have done so well this year on PC and on consoles.
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#10 godonholiday
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Well, I wasnt really trying to focus on BF4, but more focus on the things being touted as 'NEW', 'NEXT GEN' etc.. Do any of those things actually make a game next gen? Are they worth it? Will PC gamers actually notice any difference? If not, why not? The PC architecture has been around for years? Lets start pushing it a bit more?