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#1 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

well thats fine IF the gen doesnt really end but the places of whoever was in 1st 2nd and 3rd should end

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I don't see why.

The generations are entirely independent of each other, and a new one doesn't necessitate the old one dying off.

Here's a hypothetical:

Nintendo release a WiiU in 2012, it sells 10 million its first year, 5 million in 2013, for a total of 15 million, by the end of 2013.

Microsoft release a 720 a year later, it sells 10 million its first year (2013), 10 million the next (2014), for a total of 20 million and keeps on selling.

Sony release a PS4 in 2014, it sells 15 million its first year and keeps on selling.

The WiiU2 is released in 2014. The WiiU is the best selling console of the eigth generation?

It doesn't make any sense.

that will never happen and thats extremely hypothetical when that does happen you will have anarguement but once a new gen start the old won places should as well its just going to create more confusion and loopholes on here

I don't think its really done that way... When people talk about the PS2 dominating last gen, they cite the 150+ million sold, not the ~100 million or so it had in 2005. In past gens, the differences between first-second-third were pretty big... and didn't change after the next gen started. So its not really that the generation was called as soon as the next started, it's just that the places were pretty much cemented. In this gen, say WiiU came out right now, and we said "Yep, that's it. Wii > 360 > PS3. Final results in." And then PS3 goes on to sell 12-15 million a year for three more years, and then another couple million a year after the PS4 releases, 360 sells another 10-12 million for a year or two before completely jumping over to the "Loop", and Wii sits dead in the water after the WiiU comes out... Why would we still say Wii > 360 > PS3, if it ends up PS3 > Wii > 360? Down the road, people wanting to know which one "won" will look up which sold more, and go by total lifetime sales, not sales up to the date the first system of the next gen came out.

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#2 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"]

Looks like the ps3 has a good chance of finally passing the 360 next year.

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they need to make a 2.1 mill gap go away which wont happen since xmax is around the corner maybe in 2 years

You make it sound like 360 outsells PS3 during holiday quarters... when that's only happened once, in 2008 (also the only year 360 outsold PS3). Last year, with a redesign and kinect push, 360 managed to tie PS3 in the holidays. This year, PS3 is going into the holidays fresh off a price cut (like it did in 2009, when it outsold 360 by 1.3 million for the holiday quarter).

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#3 ianuilliam
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I skipped GoW 1 and 2 on PS2. Got the collection, it was great. I Played some of SotC at a friends, but never got it, and by the time I started looking for it, Ico was almost impossible to find. I'll be picking up the Ico collection. I have MGS 1-4... but I don't have a PSP, so I might pick up the MGS collection just for PW. If you already have these games... don't buy them. Pretty simple stuff.

And it's not like its a new idea. I picked up FF Origins (1 and 2 from the NES/Famicom), Chronicles (FF2 and Chrono Trigger from the SNES) and Anthology (FF5 and 6 from SNES/Super Famicom) on PS1 way back in the day. Even though I had several of those games on their original systems (not all of them were originally localized), they had some slight graphical improvements and a few extra features, and I liked having the whole collection on one system, so they were worth a re-purchase for me.

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That score is pretty funny, looking at the MC page... 15 100s, 31 90-99s, 3 80s... and one 50. Reminds me of Sesame Street, when I was a kid: "One of this things is not like the others; One of these things does not belong..."

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#5 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] It's actually funny that you mentioned that. A guy at work with a 360 tried to play Dark Souls and BF3 but he has no internet, and he couldn't even play the games because it wouldn't allow him to without an update from the internet. Hassle free? Yeah right.

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Yep another troll here pulling stuff out of his arse. I've had cases of internet outages myselfand didn't have those problems on the PS3. Heck I was still able to at least play Single player games even during the infamous PSN outage.

I never said you couldn't play the games if you didn't have internet after, it was the FIRST TIME those games were PLAYED on that PARTICULAR 360. Do you understand that?

Sooo... someone couldn't play a game on his console, because he had no internet, so he couldn't download a required patch? If he had no internet, how the hell did the game know there was a patch that needed? This is one if the worst made up stories I've ever heard...

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#6 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

seriously dude? that is the "what's new in the playstation store" icon. which is where you go to when you want ads

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That's where you end up when you initially start your PS3? :?

Mine doesn't, because I turned off that option in the settings.

Really... Maybe the XMB UI is too complicated for some people to find the option to do that... :o

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#7 ianuilliam
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what is your problem? 'cry me a river', what i childish reaction. I was just interested how old he was, if he played games from N64 and such. If he did, i would take his comment about it being the best game he ever played very interesting cause then he chooses uncharted 3 about classics as zelda and such, nothing more and would be more in the position i am.

Not every comment on systemwars is from fanboy's, i have all consoles.

And i just said i miss the magic from back in the day!

vlens

How old are you? I've played games since the NES came out, and personally, I wouldn't call anything from the N64 "the best game I ever played." I like the classics... but games today are better if you take your nostalgia glasses off.

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#8 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]No Discussion thread yet :P it's been four daysGiancar
Apparently PS3 users don't get the same consideration. I'm not sure why.

maybe because the game isn't officially out yet...

The game wasn't out yet when the Forza hype thread got locked and a "discussion thread" got made and stickied either...

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[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]Dont forget 360 had a year head start, and all the momentum in 2007 when the PS3 was finding its legs. That head start alone is worth 5-6 million consoles. The gap sits around 3-4 million right now which means PS3 has outsold 360 since it launched.WilliamRLBaker
um...except you would be false it hasn't outsold it since launch. Go back to pull up the numbers

PS3 outsold 360 by 1.4 million in 2007, 2.2 million in 2009, and 2.3 million in 2010. 360 outsold PS3 by 0.1 million in 2008. Numbers taken from MS/Sony fiscal reports. That looks like outselling it since launch to me... except for 2008, which was practically a tie, compared to all the other years.

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[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"] As he said, that really isn't good evidence. Number one, we don't even have proof that there are more consumers with 360s than there are consumers with PS3. There a people who buy multiple consoles, replace broken down consoles, or buy the consoles for non-gaming reasons. Now if you had a huge lead, we could ignore these factor, but you don't. You also have the 360 having experience seriously bad reliability issues during it's early and mid life, warranty or no, increasing the likely number of replacement purchases. Two, even if the person does own the console, doesn't mean they prefer it, or view it as the better system. Just for example, let's say 10 mill own both PS3 and 360, but all of those 10 million could potentially prefer PS3. Really, in the end, in a race, we can't say from the sales numbers which is preferred by the general public. I think you can say US seem to prefer it, but the world as a whole not so much. delta3074
so how do you explain the fact that 360 exclusives sell more than Ps3 exclusives and the 360 still has a higher software attach rate,surely the ps3 would have more games sold for it if was the most popular.

It's really only Halo and Gears that sell like crazy on 360 (exclusives-wise). And as for the attach rate, we don't actually know what it is... Whenever MS announces it, it is in their pressers following NPD announcements... so just America. They don't announce worldwide software sales at all, like Sony does in their fiscal reports, so we really have no way of comparing directly which has the better worldwide attach rate, tie ratio, or total software sales.